it's crazy that exactly one year ago i paid almost double the price for the same drive i bought last week
this post was submitted on 21 Nov 2023
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Can we have ban for these "SSD soon cheaper than HDD" postings?
Please? Pleeeze! I implore you, I can't stand those people anymore... nargh!
You shouldn’t use such an old X16 12TB for analysis. It’s price will increase since they’re getting sparse.
They are getting cheaper, but because it is such mature tech, it doesn't happen nearly as quickly.
A few years ago I bought 12tb drives for 199, and now 199 gets you 18tb. So for the same price you get 50% more storage.
few years ago that 199 was worth 20% more too 🤣
We make a product containing a 1TB 2.5" HDD.
Our cost price of a 1TB 2.5" HDDs have gone up over the last few years.
It is now significantly cheaper to buy a 1TB 2.5" SSD retail from Amazon than it is for us to by a 1TB 2.5" HDD wholesale.
However cheap 2.5" SSDs are often slower than 2.5" HDDs in some important use cases. A simple test of writing the entire SSD is often slower than writing the entire HDD (which is already not exactly fast when we are talking about 2.5" drives). More importantly cheap SSDs can randomly pause for a period of time... typically only a few seconds but sometimes more than 10 seconds while they do things.
I just assumed since spinning rust can outlast flash it will always cost more. I can't think of anyone using flash for long term storage or backups.
this is why i made the decision to have all 16TB of my media server on SSDs
There are lot of rumours that SSD prices are either going to up or remains static.
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
Price per gigabyte is what we should be looking at and not specific models of drives.
why do we keep posting these?
The good news is HAMR drops next year, and that will substantially lower prices.
WD has all but said they will not be able to answer HAMR next year, and will have to compete on cost with smaller drives.
And Toshiba and HGST have been silent.
All that adds up to Seagate getting to 32-40TB next year, and the rest of the players having to slash prices so buyers can get two drives and save a lot.
Well, this is pretty normal. Just wait when Micron will enter with the new fab fully active.
Cost per TB on hdd's is what I look at and it doesn't move down much if at all.
Yeah no shit. HDDs have been at the price floor for twenty or thirty years. Mechanical complexity dictates minimum cost. What keeps them relevant is expanding capacity. Finer control - even for the same components! - can significantly increase reliable data density. Plus, you can add more platters and only duplicate a few other moving parts.
On a good day, hard drives can offer fifteen-ish terabytes for $200.
By the time SSDs can match that, HDDs will probably be 40+ TB for the same price.
Even if those curves meet - what's really going to squelch the hard drive market is that laptops and smartphones won't touch them. Why in the name of god would you put a spinning disk in a moving object, after 2020? If your device needs as much storage as money can buy - not even a fat gaming laptop will fit 3.5" drives, and all that space comes from disk area. SSDs are going to push out HDDs in much the same way LCDs pushed out other flat-screen tech. It's a virtuous circle of sales encouraging research that improves products and results in more sales. there's probably gonna be a point where 1TB SD cards cost five bucks... and actually hold 1TB.
It's probably because of a physical limitation, kinda like what happened to magnetic tape back in the day. Give it a couple decades, the same thing would probably happen to ssds
Maybe not as dramatic of a price change but the prices for HDD are dropping. You couldn't get an 18TB hard drive for under $280 last year. Now they're on sale for $200.
It's probably because of a physical limitation, kinda like what happened to magnetic tape back in the day. Give it a couple decades, the same thing would probably happen to ssds
It's when a cheap substitute clears the low end of the market and only the expensive top remains profitable to make. Similar to iGPUs. You won't find a RTX 4010-4030 for $100, because the gpu built-in the cpu is just good enough for non-gamers.
Maybe not as dramatic of a price change but the prices for HDD are dropping. You couldn't get an 18TB hard drive for under $280 last year. Now they're on sale for $200.
Look at Seagate share price.. hasn’t tank
Past performance is a terrible predictor of future performance. Ssd prices dropped a lot since the pandemic since demand dropped and the factories are still there. As usual this normally means that new factories will be delayed and prices will be relatively higher going forward for a while. Now the longterm trend still favors ssd but 2022 Is a shitty year to base your price projections on