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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (43 children)

celebs should never ever be taken seriously when it comes to any other matter than the one they actually excel at, be it football or acting etc.

No I dont want a fucking actor, raised by actors, isolated from society telling me how to vote or what to think about economics. Same goes for footballers. These people are not normal in any sense of the word nor do they have any understanding of the world they live in so sheltered.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I think footballers can be an exception because usually they're people who were raised in a working class family and have seen their family struggle, so they usually will have a bit of life experience. Different from all the nepo-babies in the music and film industry

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It seems like he's not going to jeopardise generational wealth over virtue signalling

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

he's not going to jeopardise generational wealth over virtue signalling

he could have just had some actual virtue

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Never had if he chose the bag over what he believes in.... Question we should ask is if Jake Daniels would go earn the bag at Saudi rather than rotting at a league one bench

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Question we should ask is if Jake Daniels would go earn the bag at Saudi rather than rotting at a league one bench

I think Jake, an openly gay man, might have a couple issues going to the Saudi league to be honest

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Foreigners/expats have different rules in saudi...everyone knows this, he'll be alright if he doesn't make a big fuss about being gay

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

he'll be alright if he doesn't make a big fuss about being gay

And you see the problem with what you said, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

"He'll be alright if he suppresses an entire part of his identity to appease bigots"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

he’ll be alright if he’s just not himself.

Cool cool fr

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

He was a Liverpool footballer for 10-12 years, he's already got generational wealth, the money he's on now just guarantees his grandkids are gonna be assholes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

There was no jeopardy involved, he already had generational wealth and still would have earned millions in England.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

He's been a PL footballer for over a decade, he has generational wealth

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (10 children)

It just goes to show that most ‘holier than thou’ people are just virtue signalling twats.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

This is the line that must infuriates me, Henderson's given people like you all the ammunition you need to disparage any celebrity speaking up for a cause. He hasn't just tarnished his own reputation, he's tarnished everyone's.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think it is a good thing to show solidarity, be passionate about a cause or causes and speak up about it.

I don't think the language you're using is helpful here, seems like a very cynical worldview. Just because Jordan Henderson sold out his beliefs for a bit of cash doesn't mean that everyone who cares about social causes is a "virtue signalling twt" and it's unhelpful to tarnish people with that brush.

Just my two cents on the matter seeing as you gave yours

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

that's why we shouldn't hold celebrities on a pedestal just because they do something good, like how Henderson used to be an LGBT+ ally. We can say "Well done" but should always recognize that we don't know them personally at the end of the day. That's why i don't really vibe with comments about how "good of a guy Jack Grealish is". He's done things that i found heartwarming but thats just one aspect of his, he was still capable of drunk driving in the past and i cant say he changed in that aspect for sure just because he's also nice to disabled fans

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It’s all about the money, yo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

All the support from Hollywood movies, all companies, video game companies. They are only using it as a tool to make money.

Like the spiderman devs, they are all 'supportive' with the pride flags in their game and severely denouncing the modders who modded them out. But just turn around the corner, insomniac themselves remove them for the Saudi Arabia version of the game.

Minorities are being used. Little mermaid actress was put there not because she was the best candidate, she was cast precisely because she is black.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Not only is Jake Daniels gay but he's also poor. Offer 350k net per week and you would have more allies Jake, duh.

/s, obviously

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just goes to show pro athletes should not get involved with causes like this.

Loads of players have gone to Saudi and Henderson takes as much flack as the rest of them put together.

If he keeps his mouth shut and doesn’t get involved with LBGT causes he would have been just another player getting a massive end of career payday.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Horrible take. Surely the conclusion should be that when athletes get involved in social causes, they shouldn't completely betray them. It's not that hard an ask.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

FR. It's good that they want to stand for things and use their platform for good if that feels right for them.

Obviously then people want you to stick to it if not it looks like all they were doing is virtue signalling / PR image curation.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

His interview just made matters worse. He’s a dumb, deluded egocentric.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

How can Jake not understand that Jordan has obviously done this in order to promote LGBT rights. What a hero!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rich guy insincerely takes up moral/political stance which is PR friendly, commercially safe, and unradical.

Tale as old as time.

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