Bloodyhog

Please do not put this as a KPI! Let's give cockroaches a chance.

That will take a few hundred million years to recover then. Not to the same biome, there will certainly be some crazy species popping up. From what i recall, Earth still has a few billion years before it is consumed by the Sun, should be ok.

Yes, but it also switches off after some time, and I tend to like exploring new music, so have to use either switches frequently anyway. Still raging!

Oh, my bad, apologies. Scan reading sometimes leads to mistakes like that, and that one was too funny for my brain to let go.

But now it makes even less sense to me with the body thing. I would never accept someone else forcing me to do (or not do) something with my own body - and i see no reason whatsoever for anyone to accept that.

There is an issue of vaccination where some enforcement is justifiable, as there is a true risk for other people in you not doing it. How does someone's decision of not having a child threatens you?

Any and all restrictions or instructions should be based on a rational argument, otherwise it is just a limitation of your freedom.

And given that the argument in favor of imposing the limitations in question lies in the area of someone else's beliefs - that becomes even more ridiculous.

On the taxes side - there i can see a strong argument for it in principle, as it allows the society as a whole to do better. You want to use infrastructure built by society - you pay. Now, there is a whole other problem of how exactly the monies collected on the basis of a rational idea are spent. Holding the people in charge accountable is truly a big issue, not for this thread though.

It is still trying to connect to the bloody internet starting up, taking minutes as where i live connectivity is not great on a commute. Makes me turn flight mode on. RAGE!!!!

There is actually another myth: the planet will do just fine - it is the humanity that will die as the result. Not that we would care about this nuance at that point...

As in, billions will die? That is a big change indeed...

Not sure about the anatomy (though I can agree that some of it is rather funny, when you think about it), but the ability to control your own body is, as I see it, one of the core liberties that can never be taken away from an able person. The ethics of "supporting" people with some mental disabilities is much more convoluted, I do not have a strong opinion there.

Would be curious to see how you do your tax returns if that violates your anatomy!

If we are talking about 2 consenting adults - yep, this is my take on it, only these 2 are in charge, until the baby is born. Afterwards there must be some protection for the baby, so there is a role for a government. It was not always like that, but that is how, I think, it should be at this stage of society's evolution. Another moral claim, I know. )

Here in the UK there are in general 2 categories of ppl who are still wearing suits: corporate managers and real estate agents. Not sure which is the worst, a close competition.

There is a world outside the US, as they say... Regardless, why would a federal government enforce the control of someone's body? There are in general 2 people involved in this, and they should be the only ones responsible for this type of decisions. Not a state, not feds.

Why would a state - any state - have anything to do with letting a woman control her body?