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[–] CaractacusPotts 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Which one was in existence first and caused the other to be created?

[–] CaractacusPotts 0 points 11 months ago (5 children)

😂 citations?

[–] CaractacusPotts 2 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Yes, but to reiterate, one caused and funded the other.

[–] CaractacusPotts 3 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Without one, the other doesn't come into existence.

[–] CaractacusPotts 3 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Which one caused the other?

[–] CaractacusPotts -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Flaky... understood.

[–] CaractacusPotts 15 points 11 months ago

Hardly surprising...

Biden has always seen Israel as an investment which produces the best returns for U.S. interests.

In 1986, when he was a member of the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, he opposed the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia because they were not able to become “agents of .U.S interests in the Persian Gulf region.”

He stressed that his opposition to the weapons sale was not about whether the Saudis were good guys or bad guys, but about the ability of the Saudis to help advance and secure U.S. interests.

He emphasized that the “naked self-interest of the U.S.” should always guide their Middle East policy, and that his support for Israel is situated within that self-interest. As he bluntly explained: “Were there not an Israel, the United States of America would have to invent an Israel to protect her interest in the region.”

https://theconversation.com/biden-says-the-u-s-would-have-to-invent-an-israel-if-it-didnt-exist-why-210172

[–] CaractacusPotts 13 points 11 months ago

I have taken pains to point out that Zionism does not equate Judaism. Three of the men from whom I have learned the most about this conflict are all Jewish, Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein and Ilan Pappé.

[–] CaractacusPotts 0 points 11 months ago

The US is the worlds only remaining superpower. Biden picks up the phone calls Netanyahu and says we are sending in trucks. You will not impede them, or we will set your economy on fire. He hangs up the phone and the trucks begin to roll. It's that simple.

[–] CaractacusPotts 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

If it's worth noting, you should cite sources.

[–] CaractacusPotts 9 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Israel’s formal position is not the elimination of Palestinian Arabs.

The UN has found credible evidence to the contrary

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/7/un-report-finds-israeli-occupation-root-cause-of-conflict

Zionism was from the very beginning a settler colonial enterprise. Yes genocidal attitudes towards Jews may have been used to promote the idea, but the end goal was always possession of land.

In its initial stage, Zionism was conceived by its pioneers as a movement wholly depending on mechanical factors: there is a country which happens to be called Palestine, a country without a people, and, on the other hand, there exists the Jewish people, and it has no country. What else is necessary, then, than to fit the gem into the ring, to unite this people with this country? The owners of the country [the Turks] must, therefore, be persuaded and convinced that this marriage is advantageous, not only for the [Jewish] people and for the country, but also for themselves.

https://digitalprojects.palestine-studies.org/resources/special-focus/zionist-settler-colonialism

[–] CaractacusPotts 9 points 11 months ago (9 children)

The difference is that Israel is considered an occupying power and has responsibilities under international law as such.

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