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Not as much as you think.

I never stated any high importance. I just said it matters.

I think it's crazy that I just state it matters, which is undeniably true, and it instantly prompts a rant about body dysmorphia, porn, facism, toxic masculinity, and reshaping society. Like, bro...

My point: One testimony does not make a fact

I'm not saying it isn't true. I'm saying you're misunderstanding the meaning of "confirmed" and "fact"

Listen I have zero stake in Trump's penis size but let's not get loose with the definition of "confirmed fact" here. You haven't seen it.

I mean, let's not pretend there isn't an aesthetic factor that women do care about

GenZ is overwhelmingly sex negative. I think that the movement for sexual liberation of women works to bring GenZ women back to baseline (or above) while GenZ men remain very sexually repressed. Just a theory, but it seems true in my life. I live in an American city fwiw

I really don't think making this about incels makes sense and I'll demonstrate why:

Woman calls me unfuckable -> I'm an incel

I call a woman unfuckable -> I'm an incel

There's little logical consistency around the topic and it's kind of just become a loophole to cancel morality when it comes to attacking men. I'm really careful with my wording to avoid triggering this response because if I do, people stop processing what I'm saying and they start dogpiling.

I mean, I've been pretty clear... and nobody else is having trouble understanding what I'm trying to say. is it possible that on some level you kind of like, don't want to understand?

my entire point is that generalizations are harmful lmao

I don't really think things are actually the way you suppose they are. I think that's a cultural model that's been built up by media. It may have been true at one point but from what I can tell based on my experiences in real life, it seems to be more the inverse nowadays. All my male friends seem to be much more choosy with who they sleep with (preferring a real connection) while my female friends seem to be a lot more outgoing and likely to have sex without a connection. I'm talking about a sample size of about 20 people I've hung out with in the past year, but I'm also considering people I knew when I was highschool / college age.

I think you're not really getting what I'm saying. See my other comment:

It’s not about that. It’s their choice of insult. Saying “people who voted for Trump are removed” doesn’t make it not ableist just because you specified it’s about Trump voters. Catch my drift?

Equating moral corruption to sexual undesirability is just stupid. It implies the inverse too, that sexually undesirable people are morally corrupt, which is actually a pretty huge problem in society. It also implies that men need validation from women which is just false.

It's not about that. It's their choice of insult. Saying "people who voted for Trump are removed" doesn't make it not ableist just because you specified it's about Trump voters. Catch my drift?

idk I really don't think it takes that much thought, we don't need to be so sensitive to the nuance when it's so easy to just not use language maliciously