SkepticalButOpenMinded

Black Diamond salt for me, which is what a lot of restaurants use. Worth the extra cost, especially given how potent a small bit of salt is.

It’s even worse than I said. Tire pollution is even worse than tailpipe pollution.

Another article from Forbes:

Tires were already a problem, but when we switch to electric cars, according to Michelin, we increase tire wear by up to 20%. According to Goodyear, it's up to 50%. This is validated also in other research that we've seen.

I’m not seeing anything about how brake dust is nearly as big of a problem. Literally dozens of articles about how bad tire pollution is. I’m not even mentioning microplastics! Tires are the biggest source.

Not only are they MUCH worse than brake dust, tire pollution might be worse than tailpipe emissions.

The comprehensive study has found that in everyday driving, particulate emissions from tires are 1,850 times greater than the equivalent exhaust emissions. This is only made worse by the heavier battery packs fitted to electric vehicles, which increase vehicle mass and, in turn, place further strain on the tires.

edit: this is not to say the tire particulate has the same greenhouse effect. Experts overwhelmingly agree that EVs are better for climate change. But EVs are still bad for the environment.

But massively increase tire dust, which is a much bigger source of air and water pollution than brake dust.

edit: There are literally dozens of articles about how EVs will produce more tire particulate pollution than ICEs.

Here is an article in the Guardian about how much worse tyre particulate pollution is than tailpipe exhaust.

This Atlantic article discusses tire particulate increase from EVs:

New EV models tend to be heavier and quicker—generating more particulates and deepening the danger. In other words, EVs have a tire-pollution problem, and one that is poised to get worse as America begins to adopt electric cars en masse.

According to this Forbes article:

Tires were already a problem, but when we switch to electric cars, according to Michelin, we increase tire wear by up to 20%. According to Goodyear, it’s up to 50%. This is validated also in other research that we’ve seen.

edit: To be clear, EVs are better than ICEs and every car should be an EV. But EVs also suck and we still need to transition away from car dependence.

That’s an exaggeration. The US has a better safety net than a lot of countries with much less gun death and violence. Education could better for a rich country, but is not bad. I am all for locking fewer people up, but that’s not the reason there’s gun violence.

This is always the argument against improving anything in the US. “We’re too special!” It’s just not true. Background checks, wait times, permit requirements, concealed carry restrictions, domestic violence restrictions, etc. These have all been empirically shown to reduce gun deaths in the US.

The existence of the thread is not an argument. Thats just intellectually dishonest. You wouldn’t tolerate such lazy argumentation from someone who says that they want to impose gendered titles, and the existence of a thread discussing it is “proof” enough.

You’ve now provided a different argument: you claim it removes divisions. Except this is very divisive. Just leave people alone: let people use their gendered titles, and let others not use them!

The solution is strong regulation. Just completely disallow things like this.

But those cargo ships exist whether we’re also driving a bunch of cars or not. It’s just totally orthogonal.

If anything, switching to heavy EVs will increase the amount of pollution caused by cargo ships. Bringing up cargo ships makes no sense as a defense of EVs

This should go without saying but what’s on your mind about a car doesn’t change how deadly it is when it hits you.

I’ve skimmed the thread and I don’t see any compelling reasons. Could you cite some?

I am 100% supportive of trans rights, but using precious political will, energy and attention to pressure non trans people to stop using gendered titles is a hugely divisive distraction.

They also do all those things much worse than transitioning away from car dependence.

And they give people an excuse to not move away from cars.

And they are so much heavier and deadlier than ICE cars at the same speed that they may actually actively discourage other modes, like walking or cycling.

edit: Look, I think every car should be an EV. And I also think there shouldn't be many cars because cars still suck. Both can be true.

No why would we force or encourage other people to NOT use their preferred titles. If there are no practical downsides, just let people do what they want.