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We got rid of them in the name of small government.

It was the Neo-liberal takeover ushered in under Reagan (and has been every president since) that shuttered the doors.

A constant, soul sucking feature of Neo-liberal society is it's refusal to invest or reinvest into itself, choosing to extract as much wealth out of the working class as possible as fast as possible - short of rioting.

Its a funny thing from this crowd, they say we should run the government like a business but they never say what KIND of business. A non-profit? A ma and pop?...silence.

Infrastructure, Education, Medicine all have a positive Return On Investment (ROI), which means that the smart business decision is to pay for it all, ensuring it's thorough, properly done, and to best practices.

But that is not what neo-libs mean. They mean short term profit corporations where responsible parties go unpunished.

The literal worst system you can imagine.

Honestly? It has a place of it's the last resort, if for whatever reason, a person's circumstances necessitate their constant presence and decision making ability.

Like, if there's no family the kids can go stay with, or if you're the last nuclear engineer/ER Dr./bar pilot within 1000 miles and you're already on call 24/7.

If you're presence/agency/rationality is more essential than your immediate health - and those examples could very well be - then, if you're able to compartmentalize esoteric you from physical you and cede control of the process to the prescribing doctor, ie, you just shut up, take the discomfort, ignore your brains opinion about anything that has to do with it and carry on, then methadone might be an option for you.

If you can in anyway manuever your life to avoid methadone, I 110% suggest you do that.

Withdrawal from methadone can last 6 months to a year. Withdrawal from opiates is a matter of weeks, not months. With ibogaine that's reduced to ~16hrs. Ibogaine is curiously illegal, and rated schedule 1 (no medical value, nothing to see here; look away) in America.

Sigh. Deep breaths. Here we go

It's crucial to know that even tho they are within the same family; Vicodin/Percocet withdrawal ≠ heroin withdrawal ≠ fentanyl withdrawal. The shit is exponential, I am not exaggerating.

One acre of poppies yields 1 kg of opium. It will take 100 acres of poppies to yield 1 kg of morphine. Expounding;

1acre poppies= 1kg Opium 100kg Opium=1kg Morphine 100kg Morphine= 1kg heroin 100kg heroin = 1kg fentanyl

Withdrawal symptoms/intensity are directly proportional. I know this, anecdotally. Your brain in withdrawal will pull out every trick, every rationality it can grasp to convince you to get more of w/e. "Immediate-needs you" is attacking "Overall you"...or COO v CEO, sous v exec chef, quartermaster v captain. You are caught in the middle of a war between your brain and your body. You, what you would call you, your consciousness, is emergent from both. You are not your brain. Your brain is not seperate from your body either, even tho the ego sells convincingly, they both need each other. Recovery requires setting the ego aside ( {DEEP BREATH, HOLD ON!} which it absolutely does not want to do, it will do ANYTHING before it even allows itself to be back burnered, on a fucking timer even. In it's original, unadulterated form it is insessently needy and unrelentingly demanding. A tick is less demanding and it's literally sucking your blood. This is why ego death is so transformative. It's not that you changed, cuz it didn't you are still you, obviously, it's that you can now exist outside parameters defined by the ego. It fucking feels like you're dying too, the ego sells convincingly, but then *pop, * you're thru. And you're still you. Just with less weight. And why was that so hard? WTF self? Life is fucking weird).

Phew...

I'd argue, bite the bullet and reap what youve sown and get it done with. Cold turkey is like an old neighborhood beat down while structured is a 364 day jail sentence with 5 years probation - but it doesn't require "esoteric you" to reconcile yourself. The main problem with that, to me, is no matter where you go, there you are. You can't run from yourself. Many have tried. I'm not aware of any that have survived the attempt unscathed.

Now we can chemically synthesize fent so the hundreds of millions of poppy acreage, known as Afghanistan, just lost a whole lot of its value. ...notice how our military isn't there anymore. Weird, huh?

Danni meow

I wonder if it's the higher percentage of Neanderthal DNA.

Smokers also require more pain meds, not just the opiates but the -caines as well.

I have strawberry blonde hair and smoke. Any pain meds and me is like, 'turn it all the way up Dentist' or 'yea, Vicodin does nothing. That bottle is like 2 doses.'

I landed me a debilitating repetitive injury from work, and besides taking a lateral move, I needed pain meds just to function. The pain would spread from my shoulder/back/arm up my neck into my brain. I'm talking rapid onset migraines where I'd go blind.

First time, I was driving.

Not fun.

I didn't know that could even happen. Regardless, I needed help to work, then without them Id withdraw and be unable to work. Right down the slippery slope I went. Got to a point where I just said no more, idc what happens, took 10days off work, sat at home with 30 boxes of donuts, various one step meals, 20 gallons of choc milk and otter pops. Told myself, and everyone else, i was sick. I refused to make any decisions besides what to eat that was in the building for the entire time as I considered my mind compromised and sus.

I am exceptionally willful tho and can compartmentalize like it's the ADHD Olympics. Results will vary. I do not recommended the experience. 0/10. Dengue fever in a foreign land where I speak 0.5% of the language was more pleasant.

The difference is need. Itll work the pain first, what's leftover will work towards the high

Good health/no pain= to the moon 🚀

Also, I'm happy it helped you. It can be fantastic in a clinical setting.

I agree with what yr saying but it all makes me think you've never tried, whether on purpose or not, fentanyl.

Fent...makes you absolutely retarded when yr on it, but when you are, you are transported to the warm busom of God til you snap out of it. You don't care about anything, hunger, cold, any trauma, any worries, any stressors. It all melts away for that short amount of time.

Besides the physical addiction sending a need as strong as thirst in the desert, that reprieve from pain is addicting all it's own. A good majority of people actively using and seeking out fent assume they'll die from it, and they're fine with that.

I've never been on the ban drugs train, I think the subjective exploration of consciousness and meta-reality are incredibly important for people, be that in personal mental health and growth, artistically and spiritually. At the same time, I think letting Shamans control the flow isn't a terrible idea, but if implemented should also come with an end date after society comes to terms with itself. I think terminal patients should be given as much DMT as they want for as long as they want it, it's like making practice runs at the other side. I think ibogaine should be widely available for resetting addictions back to null, but that should prob be a guided trip, same thing with ayehuasca.

But fent shouldn't be allowed outside a medical setting. The opioid receptor is devil in a red dress; dance with the devil, devil don't change, devil changes you.

In a kinder society we would prescribe meds that turn off pain receptors, like the ones developed from jellyfish and other neurotoxins, but that would prob be stipulated with forced, active restraint bed rest. We don't use those now because pain let's us know when we push too far, otherwise we'd just keep reinjuring ourselves. But fent gives that absence of pain too, and coupled with the i-cant-stress-how-extreme-cravings people will look at the work necessary to holistically end their pains and just say, nah man. At the cost of everything. Parents abandoning children. Cuz once their high, they don't care. So they just plan to stay forever high.

I'm all for banning fent.

It's the embodiment of my second favorite malaphor "build a man a fire and he's warm for a night, but set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life"

If only the DHS or FBI, having tapped everyone's cell phones, would actively police those sending the death threats.

....if only...sigh

Since they don't, it appears that this is the society they prefer for us all to live in, which is even more chilling, imo.

Physicality doesn't scare me. People can see fuckwads like this OK Rep threatening fist fights and think they can do the same, but in America, where people pack heat to go to the playground, the dumb few who fuck around will find out real fast, and then those behind them thinking the same will watch as no charges come up due to stand your ground laws and basic self-defense survival instincts.

The public is being primed to lash out prior to the election. They'll try to raise the heat without it boiling over until next November, then everything is on the table, and rules only apply to the surviving losing actors. Just watch. The playbooks as old as time.

It's a sign of emotional maturity, frankly I'd call it a lynchpin to adulthood (so without it, yr still a child) when a person can realize that at any given moment the best version of them they can be, might just be as a supporting character to someone else.

Alright I can accept that.

Personally I consider the fetus a baby once it's viable. Thankfully, Technology has lowered the internal incubation time frame, in other words, preemies have a much higher survival rate now.

The ensuing sketch situations then, is that if a fetus can be external incubated from week 16 (just throwing a number out there, I have no idea what the current medical limit is) then do we mandate a birth, (I assume thru caesarian, I don't know if pitocin can induce whenever, but beyond that, I think pitocin needs to be way more restricted than it currently is. I'm no OBGYN, my opinion means nothing) forcing the women to carry to term, or does society pick up the tab for the next 5 months, cuz no ones jumping up to fund that. And then where does the infant go? Adoption is thrown out like it's a cure all and for some, sure, but I could read daily a novel case of child abuse in just foster care alone. There is no cure all.

The keao that all fetuses deserve personhood is insane. That makes miscarriages murder or manslaughter at best, and women can do everything right and still lose the child. Allowing the state fetal person hood will not only relegate women to 2nd class citizens without their own bodily autonomy but then we'll see state overreach, where miscarriages are treated as crimes and women are jailed for them.

We know that for a fact, because it's already happening down in Alabama.

So a person goes from advocating that all life is sacred at conception to jailing, terrorizing and traumatizing our girls. Our girls, many if whom are in a fragile state from having just had a miscarriage and distraught, and in their time of need and vulnerability, we lock them up and vring them up in charges?

Yo, bro. That cure is worse than the disease, ya get me? That's a traumatized, just for fucking funsies, woman who probably will never want to have children now. That's guaranteeing our falling birth rate drops off the cliff.

When women are too scared to have babies, un, I don't know if you know this, but THATS IT. Humanity no more. Civilization crumbles without enough young people to support the needs of the old. we are already staring down that loaded barrel, so instead of working to lower that gun, why are y'all raising more?

So we're clear, every women you know could have 2 kids and somehow afford them, but thats maybe 1000 women and when off in the big city there's 4 million women refusing any and all vaginal sex (the poophole's the loophole, guess what? your society still ends and those 2000 babies you know, they're all gonna starve with everyone else, cuz none of us subsistence farm anymore.