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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

The post title seems to be satirizing a common argument between factions on the left / centre-left. It can generally apply to various issues (say, universal health care or police reform) but US support for Israel is the current point of contention.

One side is advocating just to make sure Kamala gets the presidency and Trump is defeated, after which point (they say) she can be pressured to 'move left' on the subject of Israel, which would mean to enforce an arms embargo on Netanyahu in order to put a halt to the killing in Gaza.

The other side (which is the position being advocated by this meme) are saying no, it doesn't work like that with Democrats -- they profess to be in favor of change and progressive values but once in power, they'll be under the boot of big money donors and lobbyists in Washington. If you want to pressure on Kamala on Israel (they say) the time to do it is now, while she's desperate to get elected.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Shame you're being downvoted, but you're right. While Maduro's regime is certainly autocratic and corrupt, the US has been interfering in Venezuela for decades in order to gain access to its oil reserves (the largest in the world).

This article in The Intercept is a good overview of the history, which includes two failed coup attempts.

Any claims that this latest ploy is being carried out for the sake of "democracy" should be viewed with the utmost skepticism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's possible, but I personally don't buy that argument. He didn't have to sit down and write that letter, but he did. That, plus the interview where he said that "giving it his all" was "what it was all about", seemed obvious to me he was all for holding on tight despite everyone's concerns.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Less than two weeks before he dropped out, he wrote an open letter to congressional democrats in which he wrote:

I want you to know that despite all the speculation in the press and elsewhere, I am firmly committed to staying in this race, to running this race to the end, and to beating Donald Trump.

I have heard the concerns that people have — their good faith fears and worries about what is at stake in this election. I am not blind to them.

I can respond to all this by saying clearly and unequivocally: I wouldn’t be running again if I did not absolutely believe I was the best person to beat Donald Trump in 2024.

The voters of the Democratic Party have voted. They have chosen me to be the nominee of the party. Do we now just say this process didn’t matter? That the voters don’t have a say?

I decline to do that... I have no doubt that I — and we — can and will beat Donald Trump.

Unless this was all part of an elaborate hoax, it's clear he had no intention of dropping out at that time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It was bad. Not sure it was quite as terrible as #3, but definitely bad.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I wouldn't go that far. Don't forget that the main reason Biden had to be pressured to step down in the first place was that he had effectively been foisted on lukewarm voters and that his cognitive decline had been purposefully hidden for quite some time before the infamous debate.

Yes, it's good that he finally agreed to bow out of the race, but he only did it after weeks of massive pressure from the media and from within his own party. Without that, he would most likely be the presumptive nominee today and the Democrats would still be getting creamed in the polls.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

There you go. Trump is not currently in a position to affect policy on Israel and wouldn't lift a finger even if he were, so what does it matter what he thinks?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Not just in the 80s - US government actors and proxies have tried to overthrow the government in Venezuela twice since then - in 2002 and in 2020.

Then there's also the crippling effects that US economic sanctions have had on several countries in South and Central America, which has led to the deaths of thousands and many refugees fleeing those countries. The surge in the number of people trying to cross the US-Mexico border is in no small part driven by the US' own policies on Latin America.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Designating something as a genocide is not a matter of opinion -- it's a legal definition.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

But as I noted above, the average UK citizen is not in favor of strict immigration controls (legal or otherwise) and certainly not supportive of the recent riots.

Of those who are, the majority comes from lower-income areas that suffered the most under years of Tory austerity, which is understandable. But even then it's really a case of the socioeconomic elites pointing the finger at immigrants rather than themselves.

As for the Muslim community, again there is good evidence to suggest that a lot of the fears you mentioned are unfounded. Surveys have shown that most feel that they belong in Britain and have no objections to integrating with the culture.

Again, the problem you tend to find is that extremists like Anjem Choudary are amplified by the press, giving the impressions that the Muslim community is incompatible with British values, when in fact the vast majority disagree with that statement.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

It's ironic you mention 'reality', since the hysteria surround immigration is largely based on misinformation and xenophobic propaganda being spouted by right-wing politicians and media for well over a decade. This has led to a highly distorted view of the scale and severity of the issue.

First off, the mass migration of peoples seeking refuge from war and other geopolitical disasters is a global issue rather than something that is unique to the UK, but even then the UK has taken in far fewer asylum seekers relative to other EU countries.

For instance:

Also, the UK population is actually pretty positive when it comes to immigration:

  • In a global survey, 55% of UK citizens said immigration was a net positive, and only 30% were in favor of strict limits.

The paranoia about immigrants causing higher crime rates is also based on a myth:

All this is to say that a lot of the anger inflaming these racists riots come from a combination of political and media misinformation and many people's innate prejudice towards non-Europeans.

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