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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Nature knows how to solve this problem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

I suppose it could still be done as a read-only display of content ...

If the content is hyperlinks / torrent links to copyrighted content, then even a read-only copy is illegal. Lemmy (by virtue of ActivityPub) isn't designed to access stuff remotely - the closest it could probably come would be to have links to the posts on the remote community, though adding a level of indirection is probably not enough to become legal.

If you want to do illegal stuff on the internet, you need to use services that are hosted where it isn't illegal. People yelling about freedom doesn't change the fact that admins aren't willing to go to jail for your warez.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You are allowed to discuss piracy. You aren’t allowed to facilitate piracy (I.e. providing links to pirated content). It is illegal in the country where this instance is hosted.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is there a place for something in between de-federated and federated?

That's what blocking a community is - if the instance does not allow anyone to subscribe to a community, the content from that community will not be mirrored locally.

Is there not some kind of 'gray-list' that would allow risky content to stay accessible through home instances but behave more as a direct link

The indirect approach you describe isn't compatible with the underlying ActivityPub protocol. My understanding is that all communities are effectively local, even when their home is on a different instance. Federation just allows modification of the "local" content by another instance.

(That is not to say that [email protected] is the same community as [email protected], rather that the two communities are accessed in the same way by the UI)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Defederating cuts off the whole instance. They just blocked those three piracy communities as far as I understand.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Remember that lemmy.world has to keep a copy of whatever content appears in a federated community on their servers, making them legally liable for the content. At least they just blocked the community instead of defederating.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

A strength and a weakness. The strength, as you say, is being able to move to a different instance. However, the weakness is that Lemmy (the software) requires each instance to keep a copy of every federated post for its users to interact with. This means they have to host (and be legally liable for) data that they can't police beyond blocking the community / instance.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This is the solution. Communities need to congregate on smaller, like-minded instances. It makes sense to concentrate users on large instances, but communities should be spread out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Not really - it isn’t prediction, it is early detection. Interpretive AI (finding and interpreting patterns) is way ahead of generative AI.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Don’t know what he’s talking about - it sounded like they were all laughing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I just about fell out of my chair 😆

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Like I said - there is a small vocal group who few that Lemmy as a whole should be boycotted due to the developers’ political views.

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[Meta] Bot updates (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Hello all!

Just a couple of updates from the bot front:

First, I finally got the game update comments working, and put in a more robust sticky post manager, so we won’t have 3 day old sticky posts. As always, let me know if you see something go wonky.

I’ve reconfigured the bot to go ahead and post the Game Thread when the Game Day Thread normally went up. It contains the same content, and we don’t have enough conversation to warrant two threads.

I’m thinking about doing something similar for the Postgame Thread - basically just keeping the Game thread and changing its title to reflect the outcome. I hesitate to do this because the Postgame thread gets the most upvotes, and if I just modify the title of the game thread, I don’t think it will pop up in your feed when the game is over. Let me know if you have any thoughts on this.

My next big project is to get the bot working for Eagles games. I’m a bit busy IRL right now, so I don’t know if I’ll get to it before preseason starts.

Go Phils!

edit: Oh, and I forgot to do this earlier - starting tomorrow, you should see the wild card standings and scoreboard in the Game Thread!

 

This is particularly infuriating:

I’m editing a (often lengthy), and I’ll switch to the browser to look something up or get a link to something I want to reference. When I return to the app, it does a force reload and returns to the home feed, losing not only my place, but the content of what I typed.

 

Hello!

I was wondering if lemmy.world has any bot restrictions / throttling behavior? I have a bot (ported from reddit) that is performing the same activities on lemmy.world and fanaticus.social, but I'm seeing different behavior: on LW posts aren't being featured correctly and comments aren't being added. I'm not seeing any significant configuration differences, and they are running the same code - Is there a server side explanation for this?

If you have any other suggestions for good bot lemmetiquette, I'd definitely like to hear them!

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Test Post Length (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Padres @ Reds - Sat, Jul 01

Game Status: Final - Score: 12-5 Padres

Links & Info

  • Current conditions at Great American Ball Park: 79°F - Overcast - Wind 7 mph, Varies
  • TV: Padres: San Diego Padres, Reds: Bally Sports Ohio
  • Radio: Padres: XEMO 860 (es), KWFN 97.3, Reds: WLW 700
  • MLB Gameday
  • Game Graphs
  • Savant Gamefeed
Padres Batters AB R H RBI BB K LOB AVG OBP SLG
1 Kim, H - 2B 5 2 1 0 0 1 2 .257 .344 .407
2 Tatis Jr. - RF 4 1 2 3 0 0 2 .277 .339 .515
3 Soto, J - LF 4 1 1 4 0 0 1 .274 .423 .502
4 Machado, M - 3B 5 2 2 3 0 1 1 .246 .288 .414
5 Bogaerts - SS 4 0 0 0 1 0 0 .255 .339 .383
6 Cruz, N - DH 5 0 2 0 0 0 0 .254 .293 .413
7 Dixon - 1B 2 0 0 0 0 1 1 .224 .270 .373
a-Cronenworth - 1B 1 1 0 0 1 0 2 .208 .312 .343
8 Grisham - CF 3 3 1 1 1 1 1 .212 .321 .388
9 Nola, Au - C 3 2 1 1 0 1 1 .143 .260 .190
Totals 36 12 10 12 3 5 11
Padres
a-Hit by pitch for Dixon in the 7th.
BATTING: 2B: Tatis Jr. (18, Williamson). 3B: Grisham (1, Mills, A). HR: Soto, J (15, 6th inning off Farmer, B, 2 on, 1 out); Machado, M 2 (11, 6th inning off Farmer, B, 0 on, 1 out, 7th inning off Mills, A, 1 on, 2 out). TB: Cruz, N 2; Grisham 3; Kim, H; Machado, M 8; Nola, Au; Soto, J 4; Tatis Jr. 3. RBI: Grisham (23); Machado, M 3 (36); Nola, Au (8); Soto, J 4 (46); Tatis Jr. 3 (40). 2-out RBI: Tatis Jr.; Machado, M 2. Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Cronenworth. SF: Soto, J; Tatis Jr. Team RISP: 5-for-9. Team LOB: 5.
FIELDING: DP: (Kim, H-Bogaerts-Cronenworth).
Reds Batters AB R H RBI BB K LOB AVG OBP SLG
1 Friedl - CF 5 0 0 0 0 2 5 .305 .371 .474
2 McLain - 2B 4 1 2 1 1 1 2 .317 .372 .556
3 India - DH 3 1 1 4 1 0 2 .256 .346 .415
4 De La Cruz - SS 4 0 0 0 0 1 3 .293 .343 .500
5 Fraley - RF 4 0 2 0 0 0 0 .278 .359 .483
6 Votto - 1B 3 0 0 0 1 2 2 .152 .300 .424
7 Steer - 3B 4 0 0 0 0 0 3 .279 .370 .490
8 Stephenson, T - C 2 2 0 0 2 0 2 .255 .332 .369
9 Benson - LF 4 1 3 0 0 0 1 .299 .393 .474
Totals 33 5 8 5 5 6 20
Reds
BATTING: 2B: McLain 2 (14, Wacha, Wacha); Fraley (10, Wacha). HR: India (11, 7th inning off García, L, 3 on, 2 out). TB: Benson 3; Fraley 3; India 4; McLain 4. RBI: India 4 (45); McLain (28). 2-out RBI: McLain; India 4. Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Stephenson, T; De La Cruz 2. GIDP: McLain. Team RISP: 2-for-11. Team LOB: 6.
FIELDING: E: De La Cruz (1, fielding); Steer (6, throw). Pickoffs: Williamson (Tatis Jr. at 2nd base).
Padres Pitchers IP H R ER BB K HR P-S ERA
Wacha (W, 8-2) 5.0 5 1 1 2 4 0 87-53 2.84
Cosgrove 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 12-8 0.50
García, L 1.0 2 4 4 2 1 1 26-13 5.93
Hill, T 1.0 0 0 0 1 0 0 12-6 3.34
Honeywell 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 15-9 3.32
Totals 9.0 8 5 5 5 6 1
Reds Pitchers IP H R ER BB K HR P-S ERA
Williamson (L, 1-2) 5.0 3 2 2 1 5 0 86-51 5.56
Farmer, B 1.0 2 3 2 0 0 2 13-8 3.54
Mills, A 1.0 4 5 2 1 0 1 40-23 18.00
Salazar 2.0 1 2 2 1 0 0 36-19 8.03
Totals 9.0 10 12 8 3 5 3
Game Info
WP: Mills, A.
HBP: Cronenworth (by Mills, A); Grisham (by Salazar); Nola, Au (by Salazar).
Pitches-strikes: Wacha 87-53; Cosgrove 12-8; García, L 26-13; Hill, T 12-6; Honeywell 15-9; Williamson 86-51; Farmer, B 13-8; Mills, A 40-23; Salazar 36-19.
Groundouts-flyouts: Wacha 6-3; Cosgrove 1-1; García, L 1-1; Hill, T 1-2; Honeywell 1-1; Williamson 5-1; Farmer, B 1-1; Mills, A 3-0; Salazar 2-4.
Batters faced: Wacha 21; Cosgrove 3; García, L 7; Hill, T 4; Honeywell 3; Williamson 18; Farmer, B 6; Mills, A 10; Salazar 10.
Inherited runners-scored: Farmer, B 1-1.
Umpires: HP: Ryan Wills. 1B: Chris Segal. 2B: Ben May. 3B: Jeff Nelson.
Weather: 79 degrees, Overcast.
Wind: 7 mph, Varies.
First pitch: 1:41 PM.
T: 2:58.
Att: 30,895.
Venue: Great American Ball Park.
July 1, 2023
Inning Scoring Play Score
Top 3 Fernando Tatis Jr. doubles (18) on a ground ball to right fielder Jake Fraley. Trent Grisham scores. 1-0 SD
Bottom 3 Matt McLain doubles (14) on a fly ball to center fielder Trent Grisham. Tyler Stephenson scores. 1-1
Top 6 Juan Soto homers (15) on a fly ball to right center field. Austin Nola scores. Ha-Seong Kim scores. 4-1 SD
Top 6 Manny Machado homers (10) on a fly ball to left center field. 5-1 SD
Top 7 Trent Grisham triples (1) on a ground ball to right fielder Jake Fraley. Jake Cronenworth scores. 6-1 SD
Top 7 Austin Nola grounds out, shortstop Elly De La Cruz to first baseman Joey Votto. Trent Grisham scores. 7-1 SD
Top 7 Fernando Tatis Jr. singles on a ground ball to center fielder TJ Friedl. Ha-Seong Kim scores. 8-1 SD
Top 7 Manny Machado homers (11) on a fly ball to left center field. Fernando Tatis Jr. scores. 10-1 SD
Bottom 7 Jonathan India hits a grand slam (11) to center field. Tyler Stephenson scores. Will Benson scores. Matt McLain scores. 10-5 SD
Top 8 Fernando Tatis Jr. out on a sacrifice fly to center fielder TJ Friedl. Trent Grisham scores. Austin Nola to 3rd. 11-5 SD
Top 8 Juan Soto out on a sacrifice fly to left fielder Will Benson. Austin Nola scores. 12-5 SD
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E LOB
Padres 0 0 1 0 0 4 5 2 0 12 10 0 5
Reds 0 0 1 0 0 0 4 0 0 5 8 2 6

Decisions

Division Scoreboard

SF 1 @ NYM 4 - Final

LAD 4 @ KC 6 - Final

DET 4 @ COL 2 - Final

AZ 3 @ LAA 1 - Final

Last Updated: 07/01/2023 09:55:00 PM PDT

Padres @ Reds - Sat, Jul 01

Game Status: Final - Score: 12-5 Padres

Links & Info

  • Current conditions at Great American Ball Park: 79°F - Overcast - Wind 7 mph, Varies
  • TV: Padres: San Diego Padres, Reds: Bally Sports Ohio
  • Radio: Padres: XEMO 860 (es), KWFN 97.3, Reds: WLW 700
  • MLB Gameday
  • Game Graphs
  • Savant Gamefeed
Padres Batters AB R H RBI BB K LOB AVG OBP SLG
1 Kim, H - 2B 5 2 1 0 0 1 2 .257 .344 .407
2 Tatis Jr. - RF 4 1 2 3 0 0 2 .277 .339 .515
3 Soto, J - LF 4 1 1 4 0 0 1 .274 .423 .502
4 Machado, M - 3B 5 2 2 3 0 1 1 .246 .288 .414
5 Bogaerts - SS 4 0 0 0 1 0 0 .255 .339 .383
6 Cruz, N - DH 5 0 2 0 0 0 0 .254 .293 .413
7 Dixon - 1B 2 0 0 0 0 1 1 .224 .270 .373
a-Cronenworth - 1B 1 1 0 0 1 0 2 .208 .312 .343
8 Grisham - CF 3 3 1 1 1 1 1 .212 .321 .388
9 Nola, Au - C 3 2 1 1 0 1 1 .143 .260 .190
Totals 36 12 10 12 3 5 11
Padres
a-Hit by pitch for Dixon in the 7th.
BATTING: 2B: Tatis Jr. (18, Williamson). 3B: Grisham (1, Mills, A). HR: Soto, J (15, 6th inning off Farmer, B, 2 on, 1 out); Machado, M 2 (11, 6th inning off Farmer, B, 0 on, 1 out, 7th inning off Mills, A, 1 on, 2 out). TB: Cruz, N 2; Grisham 3; Kim, H; Machado, M 8; Nola, Au; Soto, J 4; Tatis Jr. 3. RBI: Grisham (23); Machado, M 3 (36); Nola, Au (8); Soto, J 4 (46); Tatis Jr. 3 (40). 2-out RBI: Tatis Jr.; Machado, M 2. Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Cronenworth. SF: Soto, J; Tatis Jr. Team RISP: 5-for-9. Team LOB: 5.
FIELDING: DP: (Kim, H-Bogaerts-Cronenworth).
Reds Batters AB R H RBI BB K LOB AVG OBP SLG
1 Friedl - CF 5 0 0 0 0 2 5 .305 .371 .474
2 McLain - 2B 4 1 2 1 1 1 2 .317 .372 .556
3 India - DH 3 1 1 4 1 0 2 .256 .346 .415
4 De La Cruz - SS 4 0 0 0 0 1 3 .293 .343 .500
5 Fraley - RF 4 0 2 0 0 0 0 .278 .359 .483
6 Votto - 1B 3 0 0 0 1 2 2 .152 .300 .424
7 Steer - 3B 4 0 0 0 0 0 3 .279 .370 .490
8 Stephenson, T - C 2 2 0 0 2 0 2 .255 .332 .369
9 Benson - LF 4 1 3 0 0 0 1 .299 .393 .474
Totals 33 5 8 5 5 6 20
Reds
BATTING: 2B: McLain 2 (14, Wacha, Wacha); Fraley (10, Wacha). HR: India (11, 7th inning off García, L, 3 on, 2 out). TB: Benson 3; Fraley 3; India 4; McLain 4. RBI: India 4 (45); McLain (28). 2-out RBI: McLain; India 4. Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Stephenson, T; De La Cruz 2. GIDP: McLain. Team RISP: 2-for-11. Team LOB: 6.
FIELDING: E: De La Cruz (1, fielding); Steer (6, throw). Pickoffs: Williamson (Tatis Jr. at 2nd base).
Padres Pitchers IP H R ER BB K HR P-S ERA
Wacha (W, 8-2) 5.0 5 1 1 2 4 0 87-53 2.84
Cosgrove 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 12-8 0.50
García, L 1.0 2 4 4 2 1 1 26-13 5.93
Hill, T 1.0 0 0 0 1 0 0 12-6 3.34
Honeywell 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 15-9 3.32
Totals 9.0 8 5 5 5 6 1
Reds Pitchers IP H R ER BB K HR P-S ERA
Williamson (L, 1-2) 5.0 3 2 2 1 5 0 86-51 5.56
Farmer, B 1.0 2 3 2 0 0 2 13-8 3.54
Mills, A 1.0 4 5 2 1 0 1 40-23 18.00
Salazar 2.0 1 2 2 1 0 0 36-19 8.03
Totals 9.0 10 12 8 3 5 3
Game Info
WP: Mills, A.
HBP: Cronenworth (by Mills, A); Grisham (by Salazar); Nola, Au (by Salazar).
Pitches-strikes: Wacha 87-53; Cosgrove 12-8; García, L 26-13; Hill, T 12-6; Honeywell 15-9; Williamson 86-51; Farmer, B 13-8; Mills, A 40-23; Salazar 36-19.
Groundouts-flyouts: Wacha 6-3; Cosgrove 1-1; García, L 1-1; Hill, T 1-2; Honeywell 1-1; Williamson 5-1; Farmer, B 1-1; Mills, A 3-0; Salazar 2-4.
Batters faced: Wacha 21; Cosgrove 3; García, L 7; Hill, T 4; Honeywell 3; Williamson 18; Farmer, B 6; Mills, A 10; Salazar 10.
Inherited runners-scored: Farmer, B 1-1.
Umpires: HP: Ryan Wills. 1B: Chris Segal. 2B: Ben May. 3B: Jeff Nelson.
Weather: 79 degrees, Overcast.
Wind: 7 mph, Varies.
First pitch: 1:41 PM.
T: 2:58.
Att: 30,895.
Venue: Great American Ball Park.
July 1, 2023
Inning Scoring Play Score
Top 3 Fernando Tatis Jr. doubles (18) on a ground ball to right fielder Jake Fraley. Trent Grisham scores. 1-0 SD
Bottom 3 Matt McLain doubles (14) on a fly ball to center fielder Trent Grisham. Tyler Stephenson scores. 1-1
Top 6 Juan Soto homers (15) on a fly ball to right center field. Austin Nola scores. Ha-Seong Kim scores. 4-1 SD
Top 6 Manny Machado homers (10) on a fly ball to left center field. 5-1 SD
Top 7 Trent Grisham triples (1) on a ground ball to right fielder Jake Fraley. Jake Cronenworth scores. 6-1 SD
Top 7 Austin Nola grounds out, shortstop Elly De La Cruz to first baseman Joey Votto. Trent Grisham scores. 7-1 SD
Top 7 Fernando Tatis Jr. singles on a ground ball to center fielder TJ Friedl. Ha-Seong Kim scores. 8-1 SD
Top 7 Manny Machado homers (11) on a fly ball to left center field. Fernando Tatis Jr. scores. 10-1 SD
Bottom 7 Jonathan India hits a grand slam (11) to center field. Tyler Stephenson scores. Will Benson scores. Matt McLain scores. 10-5 SD
Top 8 Fernando Tatis Jr. out on a sacrifice fly to center fielder TJ Friedl. Trent Grisham scores. Austin Nola to 3rd. 11-5 SD
Top 8 Juan Soto out on a sacrifice fly to left fielder Will Benson. Austin Nola scores. 12-5 SD
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E LOB
Padres 0 0 1 0 0 4 5 2 0 12 10 0 5
Reds 0 0 1 0 0 0 4 0 0 5 8 2 6

Decisions

Division Scoreboard

SF 1 @ NYM 4 - Final

LAD 4 @ KC 6 - Final

DET 4 @ COL 2 - Final

AZ 3 @ LAA 1 - Final

Last Updated: 07/01/2023 09:55:00 PM PDT

 

Hey - bot is going live this week. Couple of notes:

  • Lemmy has a 10k post limit, so I'm currently cutting the highlights table from the game thread. I'm working on creating a separate Highlights thread that will be linked from the game thread. This will be temporary - the Lemmy devs are planning on upping the limit to 50k, but it doesn't look like that change made it in to 0.18
  • There's another bug in Lemmy that causes people to be taken to / post into active threads instead of where they intended to go. I'm speculating that the high comment volume for game updates (base hits, scoring, pitching changes) we had configured was causing the many game threads (one for each of the 30 teams) to trigger this bug. We're dialing the comment volume and update rate back a bit until instances migrate to 0.18. (Lemmy.world is waiting for 0.18.1 to update)
  • I'm a new mod. Be nice to each other. (but as always, Dallas Sucks!)
 
  • If I select Home/Posts/All/Hot, new posts are appearing every few seconds. These posts don't have any upvotes, so I don't understand how they could be "Hot"
  • Broadly, it isn't ok for new feed items to keep moving around existing feed items. For example, I click on the image preview and I start to look at it, then it moves off my screen because new posts have been added to the top of the feed. When I scroll down to the post, the preview is collapsed.
  • Since top doesn't seem to have the same auto-update issue, I think a top/hour sort would be useful.
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