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I'm sorry, but that list is everything. Great, but literally everything. Not just protections for X and Y and Z, but literally "total government reform" as well. If your list of demands is so vague you'll never send a clear message and will struggle to gain support. I'm reminded of the Newsroom episode about Occupy Wall Street. You need clear leadership and direction. Something more concise like "civilian oversight commities in all branches with authority to order investigations and court trials" would be a huge move in the right direction. You need a clear addressing of the problem with realistic end goals and a way to get there - not a laundry list of hopes.

I literally posted a comment back then saying "sure is odd that this is happening right before the US election. Not saying it means anything, but maybe it's not a coincidence?" and got downvoted to hell lmao.

No, originally I said "Bitcoin is great if you don't use the blockchain", mocking the lightning networks existence because blockchain on its own is terrible for transactions. I never said they were almost comparable. They're not. One is a database that's been proven to work for all kinds of things, and the other is a techbros fantasy that wastes energy and is basically just tech stocks at this point.

Keep up.

I never said bots were the problem. I said people caring more about popularity is the problem and that once you realize this it's super easy to program bots to imitate people by up voting/down voting what you want. But yes, call me dense when you've misconstrued my argument from day one.

Edit: didn't look like my previous comment posted so I rewrote it. Considering how dense you are tho, maybe two versions will help you finally understand, so I'll just leave it.

Because I never said bots are to blame. People are and once you realize that, programming a bot to do what people can do is super easy.

I get offended when people try to tell me I made an argument I never made. But thanks again buddy 👍

Remind me again where Bitcoin is actually used vs actual databases. It didn't solve anything and did it in an energy hungry way. It's not "almost sort of comparable". All of the scams that immediately came about because it doesn't have the numerous regulations regular financial instruments have is proof. For the last decade Bitcoin has been struggling to reach parity with financial regulations. Ffs, the US PRESIDENT JUST PULLED A RUG PULL.

Blockchain is just digital speculation.

"They tried to break free but it didn't work".

You know we call that a failure, right? You're the one attaching emotion to it. Did it succeed? No. Thus it failed.

It's not semantics. It's basically logic. Maybe don't try and be a sophist. I never said it couldn't be tried again. In fact I said quite the opposite: you need to see this as a failure, address why, and make changes before trying again. But you're just stuck on the word "failure" and your own preconceptions. No one thinks this was a test of "just Bitcoin". The dark markets already tested Bitcoin thoroughly over a decade ago. This was a test of real world application of Bitcoin as a a government backed currency in the hopes of avoiding outside influence. Outside influence came in and managed to remove Bitcoin - the exact thing that was trying to be proved it was immune to.

But cope harder if it helps you sleep at night.

Try reading the whole thing and comprehending it as a complex thought with nuance. I'll wait. Might take you awhile but I'll wait.

You realize "it's so energy and time consuming that we had to create a secondary layer to try and make it actually usable" isn't the defense you think it is, right?

You miss my meaning. All the servers that your info passes through, all the cell towers, etc, can and in many cases do track you(even as just routine loggings). Thinking that running anything makes you more secure while connecting to a giant public network is naive.

You ended your comment saying you completely disagree with me after reiterating what I'd just said as if it were your own thought.

You really need to work on your communication and reading comprehension buddy.

Yeah, and Zelle, Cashapp, venmo, PayPal all do the same and don't have that environmental impact you so easily dismissed.

It's been great watching Bitcoin grow from this digital currency for buying drugs online to having all these layers added on to almost sort of make it comparable to the systems we already have. By the time you guys actually make something that isn't just stocks with no backing but faith, we'll have moved on to a post-money society(probably not but I have more faith in that than blockchain ever being a useful currency.