naevaTheRat

You don't think this list is comedy? Baffling!

This is basically the Nirvana fallacy. While maybe you need to make some compromises (e.g few of us can afford clothing that likely doesn't involve child labour) you can make real, positive change. In clothing for example you can get second hand stuff, or just choose to have fewer items. Regardless of the difficulties with clothing nobody would say "I can't afford an ethical parker to survive winter, therefore I will punch a stranger in the face as you can't be perfect.

you can make real change, veganism is about what is practicable. Nobody expects you to die because the world is set up in fucked up ways and your BP meds were tested on animals or whatever but you can avoid animal products without perfect replacements. You don't need to replace chicken nuggets with plant nuggets, you can replace them with daal nutritionally...

“Once you recognize animals as sentient, the concept of humane slaughter starts to matter, and you need to make sure that the sort of methods you’re using on them are humane,” Birch said.

Sooooo close my ligneous friend, so very very close.

The problem is this applies equally well to stuff like eating fast food or not doing cardio 3x a week.

I'm an ex smoker for context, I hate this fucking shit but we don't offer any real support to prevent addiction and just punish people for it.

I'm 100% plain packaging and selling behind counter (for all drugs, all products really ought to have advertising bans and plain packaging but I'll never win that one). I'm also in favour of making addicting stuff boring. But after that people are ultimately free to make bad choices (I write, sprawled with terrible posture, a glass of wine, and some chips) and leaving the TGA to authorise these will mean none get approved and a black market will be created anyway.

what's the fine for this: https://youtu.be/CyJvZ1IS-bI?si=VI-KVW6baIUr9DuE ?

milquetoast btw https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milquetoast

confusing isn't it?

Tofu and tempeh are cheap, the rest are junk foods largely marketed towards lactose intolerant people and carnists with a guilty conscience.

Standard plant based food is like bean or lentil stew. Not hotdogs except molecular gastronomy.

Could you be more explicit? Like what are the foods and clothing etc suggested by militant vegans that are luxury goods?

Please dump your thoughts on mimicking fishiness. I have a Google doc here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CC1wJx0RKmYM__-TTcg9FR-xcM5wHp-rxJpJlhRYAGw/edit?usp=drivesdk

with some of my abortive attempts to make something that tastes similar enough to smoked salmon to fill a niche. Seafood of all sorts remains my unrequited love I still can't hit anything like.

I would love to compare notes!

So meat eaters and strawberry eaters are privileged? I am unsure of your point here?

It is true that not eating strawberries and not eating meat are both accessible outside the global north or w/e.

Are you vegan, because all of those second paragraph things are associated with veganism.

Well idk about taco bell cause I'm not a seppo but literally when I told me sister I was going vegan and asked if she had advice she said "Sour patch kids and oreos are vegan"

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