Cheers, being a mod sucks. It's mostly reading vitriol, removing it, and then having creeps show up in your messages with vague threats or claims about how you're a megalomaniac.
naevaTheRat
joined 2 years ago
I am an eternal optimist in my beliefs of human goodness and social ingenuity.
No I was unremoving comments of someone explaining how a plant based diet can be safe, who also acknowledged that a whole food plant based diet would be lethal. In explaining why I was I also acknowledging that a whole food plant based diet would be lethal.
Cats can survive on a plant based diet, but only one carefully formulated and processed with additional supplements. If you try to keep mr fluffypaws alive on carrots and lentils he will die.
I point out this acknowledgement as it flies in the face of the alleged action of promoting harm to animals. You can check the modlog for the full hilarity /shrug
lol, lmao even
I'm not gonna lose sleep but people should know how the world admins behave and use that info when deciding where to set up their 'thrift shop link depositories'
It's a cool place and you're a cool dude. You'll fit in
I encourage everyone to check the mod logs. On one hand a carnist stating nonsense. On the other someone calmly explaining how synthetic taurine is widely used and modern evidence suggests cats can transition to properly formulated vegan food, while acknowledging that many bad formulations exist and that a whole food diet would kill them.
Unfortunately for the toxo brained admin who is definitely on the side of animals while claiming you can own them. This is unacceptable!
I was removed for stating that synthetic taurine is a thing which is used in food all the time and that a whole food plant based diet would kill a cat. according to the admin this is promoting dangerous actions.
Synthetic taurine is a thing and is widely used in formulated food. Cats are sometimes taken off meat based diets due to medical complications. The posts you removed were reasonable and explained why in good faith, the other poster made wild asertions not based on modern evidence and made anti-reality claims such as synthetic nutrients not being equivalent and 'meat' needs being scientific fact.
They violate the rules of this comm and you are overreaching by interfering.
All companion animals should recieve regular health checks by vets, and any major dietary changes should be done with medical oversight but that doesn't mean it isn't possible. Obviously a wfpbd will kill a cat, as the poster you censored pointed out. Your closeness is affecting your judgement here, and you cannot 'own' a sentient being.
What do you think self discipline is? Like what does it mean for someone to have more or less of it? How could you tell?
I ask because to me it's executive function. which had a physiological basis and varies based on physiological state. So someone without a well functioning executive function system's best would look kinda arse to someone who had a functional one.
Well personally I do think we have a moral obligation to reduce harm and I don't see a good reason to privilege the life of one animal over another (humans included). Veganism as an ideology however is about what is practicable, and while it appears that cats can be transitioned it is very early days and can only be done responsibly if you are in a position to afford medical oversight and understand how to select correctly formulated foods.
As a vegan I am against pet keeping, but lots of abandoned animals exist and they need care there aren't institutions to provide so they end up in homes. I have a couple of rescue dogs living with me atm for example. In situations like this I think where possible we have a responsibility to juggle their needs and desires with broader harms. Like I don't let the dogs I care for hunt wildlife for fun, and give them enriching search games instead.
Abstracting away that death through food doesn't really change it.
But we're not insane, it's early days and while evidence suggests for cats its possible it isn't trivial and should be attempted responsibly, which nobody involved in this shitshow was claiming otherwise. The only people denying reality are the banned commentator who was saying that cats cannot survive on plant in the face of patient explanations by another user and the lemmy.world admin who tried to remove that user's comments in favour of the science denying ones.