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An important addition is that saying "we are animals" isn't supposed to cut what we judge to be morally right or wrong.

If anything, "We are animals" must be used to know that other animals may probably have similar introspection as us and we are unaware, thinking o ourselves as special kind of creature when it is far from being true.

If, let's say hypothetically, a cow do have not only feelings but also moral thought, thinking of a sacred "cow god/goddess) and having moral argument with fellow cows, then it just makes butchering them even more of a "crime" that it is already.

First and foremost: You are correct.

Now allow me to try to be funny: Well... Apartments are just pretty square-ish caves.

(Note that I said "try to be funny")

At this point, I think we should invite back hexbear tankies to roll over the conservatives and "centrist" in .world

I'm half joking, but there may be some truth in that.

Not sure if high, but OP is definitivelly BASED!

I'd say that only those who manage to write a kernel code that doesn't upset Linus Torvald are true linux users.

A good anime weeby analogy is that nazis are like the demons from Frieren.

They only learnt to speak the polite words so they can easily lie to us and kill us.

Sorry, I wasn't aware it was a reference to jaws.

I'll retract my previous comment then.

Thanks for pointing it out :)

Edit: I sort of missed the first part talking shit about gen x liberals and dirt poor zoomers while also affirming that the republicans aren't changing ^(Citation needed) and "based". The nuance there is just a thin veil for hate speech.

It requires a second or third reading to catch on this, but it is surely a bad take

the post of the previous commenter was nuanced.

usually it is a good thing, but since the far-right is blatantly nazi, there are some risk with "nuance"

overall, the previous comment seems to be analyzing how this divide is happening.

my only complaint is that the comment doesn't make clear who are the fuckers who are driving the social divide (spoilers: the right who is nostalgic about the post-war period and want to create a "new" post war period by, well, going full nazi)

As someone said on reddit they don't want a safe space for them.

what they want is to be enabled to shit on everyone else's food and smirk at us while we try to separate their shit from our beans.

It is a power dynamic where they want to force their shit upon us.

they already have their safe space on r/conservative where they go to circle jerk around "the left is bad".

They do get tired from that and there is no new "left is bad" if the entire political spectrum was composed of them.

Far right and conservative hate is a self cannibalizing movement.

Even if they killed all gay, black, hispanic, asian, autistic, disabled and any sort of "the other", then, they would need to find new "others" to start to hate and kill. Their fight is always inward, against the enemy within.

They will proceed to kill white people because either they are not white enough or that they are too white ("ginger" people which should've be considered the "correct type of white" if racism ever made any sense since they are paler than almost any other ethnicity).

So, they need an existing enemy and a platform that enables them to shit on us.

If they ever come to lemmy, the correct path is to ban as soon as they shou their true colors and start to throw shit around.

It only requires a few probing question to know if someone is in good or bad faith.

When the comment goes into 5 or more replies, it is almost always for sure that the conservative answering is in bad faith (only exception is if they clearly show that they are learning something with the discussion and adapting their viewpoints with each new comment)

I ask you to also be careful!

you don't need to feed the trolls to help them see the light.

Treat it like an authoritative (but not authoritarian) parent:

You don't let the kid do whatever inappropriate shit (that is a neglecting parent style), but you do state firmly the rules and give the consequence (authoritative) without making them fear you through spanking or other kinds of abuse (authoritarian).

I agree we should not be authoritarian.

But we should also not be neglectful!

Specific example:

If someone comes saying that trump did a roman salute, the authoritative answer is: "The nazi salute is a roman salute and both are used to promote fascism (link to wikipedia)".

Simply and blunt, yet "non-judgemental" answer

Now if they reply saying shit like how they are actually different, then just call their bullshit off by saying things like: "I see no reason for someone to defend a roman or nazi salute unless that someone is a nazi. I really hope you aren't a nazi, but if you are, know that you're in the wrong. Period."

Then stop any sort of further replies and start reporting if they keep harping on this (it would be similar to the time out that parents do to younger child).

In this thread:

A lot of men who didn't read the article and didn't got the satirical part of the act.

And given the last political polemic, I'm pretty sure these "men" are misrepresenting the article on purpose.