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Breitbart? Really? Breitbart is a right wind nutjob propaganda rag. Why would you post this?

True, but in this case I believe the also open sourced the training data and the training process.

Obviously not, that is why I voted for her. However, that doesn't actually answer the question I posed.

Jesus H. Christ....you wrote that paragraph and meant it, without any reflection.

To start I voted for Harris, and every Dem down ballot.

But I see your list of a few boring economic things which would never have touched my life, a tax rate so low that it is disgusting, and a bunch of nebulous promises with no real policy.

Capping medication cost....how exactly? Biden capped the medicare cost of like 12 medications....So just keep going like that. Is THAT the reform policy? Because fuck that. That isn't change, that is tinkering.

Union support...What exactly does this mean. Does this mean the Dems wont break strikes? Because the Dems kept breaking strikes under Biden.

Pushing reproductive rights....ummm, but what does this mean? Does this include fixing the Supreme Court and the Filibuster so that actual legislation can happen....because we both know it does not.

Climate action? More drilling happened under Biden than Trump.

Immigration Reform? Dude, Biden was horrible on immigration, he just continued the Trump policy, then after being beaten over the head with immigration for 3 years pushed a right wing immigration reform to call the Republicans bluff. And Harris did nothing to differentiate herself from Biden.

And of course...then there is the weapon sales and genocide denial-ism. That too was a policy.

I voted for Harris, but were her policies significantly more progressive than Trump's. Which policies specifically? Harris lost because she moved right, and alienated her base to try to woo the center right. Leftist policy regularly polls really well with Americans of both parties once you remove party affiliation.

The number of people in this comment section who are okay with compelled labor in prison is really disappointing.

In the end, wasn't the real shooter the friends we made along the way?

I have read your comment more than a few times, trying to respond in good faith, but I am uncertain so I am going to ask before responding:

Are you arguing from a position that housing IS a human right but not related at all to property rights, and the government needs to make housing affordable enough to everyone.

-OR-

Are you arguing from a position that housing is NOT a human right, BUT "the rent is too damn high" and the government needs to fix it?

There is a lot of what you have to say that I think I agree with, but I keep reading your comment and I am not sure.

I do see what you mean, but I am not sure arguing all the edge cases does anything but muddy the water. I mean I would argue that a hotel (even long term) is a hotel. Honestly, I would argue that the way housing is working right now, landlords who do short-term rentals are even worse than your standard landlord. Some cities are outlawing or heavily regulating them because they are so much more damaging (to society) than the more normal longterm landlord.

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Sorry, in retrospect that was entirely too flippant and answer for a pretty good discussion and question. Deleted.

Most people who are arguing that being a landlord (as a class) are arguing that using property (ownership) as an investment (extracting value) is evil by it's nature. By owning the home and living there, there is already a categorical difference. Most (although not all) people arguing against rentier behavior have no issues with a person owning personal property.

I do see your what you are trying to say, it's akin to "slippery slope" falacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

If landlords are wrong, then logically wouldn't this other more reasonable and less exploitative thing be wrong too? (renting a room in a house you own and are living in) and no, not necessarily. Because it isn't the same thing.

Or maybe not. Maybe renting out a room in a house you live in is wrong too. Frankly, it would be simpler to do away with all private property rights, and live in a star trek style egalitarian utopia. I would vote for that.

As long as I get to smuggle in some Romulan Ale.

My two cents---which is worthless (thanks inflation!):

Not unless you are taking advantage of them. It really is going to depend on the specific situation. But if you are renting to housemates you're not really the landlord class most people are talking about.