I can always bulk download whatever I want on the high seas.
realitista
Everything you say is true, however, Europe is only fighting Russia here. Russia also started with a deplorable state of production and ramped up. They have been fighting with their Soviet stockpile which is now all but depleted. Europe and Ukraine together can easily outproduce Russia if they put their minds to it. In the most important area, drones, Ukraine already out produces Russia 3 to 1. Artillery is a lot less important when you produce more than a million drones per year.
Yes there are challenges. But Europe is still the 800 pound gorilla when facing Russia. As long as they stay unified (hell they can afford to lose Hungary and Slovakia even), they will manage it. Now of course there is no guarantee for that, but they have been making their contingency plans for Trump for the last 4 years. I think they at least have a decent chance of managing this situation well.
I'm not sure the cartels are that concerned with PR.
I'll be honest, I've said the same in the past. But Europe is slowly waking up. They are talking about a €700b package for Ukraine which would make the US contribution so far look pretty paltry by comparison. They have some of the best arms manufacturers in the world and can produce anything the US can, often better.
They have a lot larger population than the US and 3x that of Russia. They have a similarly sized economy (10x that of Russia). All they really have to do is scale up more. They've already almost doubled their military expenditures in the last decade already. If they pick up the pace, they could be at US levels of military expenditure relatively soon.
It would be a pretty trivial task for Europe to defeat Russia on its own if it set its mind to it.
Yes they have nothing to gain from not doing that at the moment.
No, Trump has asked Europe for something, and Europe has given no indication whatsoever that they will go along with it. Indeed, in the only meeting that the major European militaries had together to discuss it, it became pretty apparent that most of them were not on board.
Anyhow, I, like you, will announce that I already won our debate without waiting for your reply.
Rather presumptuous for you to say you know how it ends now.
I think Trump will manage to push Europe into China's arms well within the next 4 years at the rate he's going. If Europe can get China to back Ukraine I think that's all it would take at this time.
Still better than normal corn on pizza
I think some of it has been actively suppressed in the USA
Yeah I've considered it. But it's just so loong.
Outside of artillery (which as mentioned, is matched or outclassed by Ukraine's drone production advantage), Russias production is not that impressive even today. Once the stockpile is gone, they will have to go to something like 10% of the current rate of use of their armed vehicles. They produce a handful of aircraft a year. We already see them sending donkeys to the front line. They are a paper tiger that Europe can take if they put their minds to it.