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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (21 children)

My friend, the IOF policy to drop bombs and white phosphorus over densely populated areas (a war crime btw) puts civilians in the line of fire intentionally.

Never mind their policy to shoot any IOF soldiers and settlers who are being taken hostage.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean if you think apartheid south Africa, Jim crow laws and indiscriminate killing of second class citizens by the police or army are issues deserving of nuanced debate you need to take a look at yourself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My point is that the incumbent party and the opposition are both anti democracy and authoritarian compared to the rest of the world.

Look at the police brutality against peaceful activists in the capitol last night and tell me if that was China that wouldn't be used by the American media to tell Americans how authoritarian China is.

This is happening under the democrats, the alleged protectors of democracy. Last time I checked freedom of speech was a democratic ideal in America and the right to protest was a human right.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Neo-colonialists the lot of them sadly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (23 children)

So no ceasefire till every Palestinian is dead? IOF has a 99% civilian casualty ratio, to take out Hamas fully the civilian death toll would be massive.

A cancer is something that spreads and kills the host. Oh I've just described isaerl, funny that.

Resistance to oppression is always justified. You can critically support groups like Hamas because they are the only ones fighting the oppressor. If the UN was actually stopping Israel I wouldn't need to vocally support the next best thing.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (25 children)

So your issue is that Israel couldn't negotiate better or at all?

And I have Palestinian friends that have lost tens of family members.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Did looking at Nazis as the bad guys stop peace?

But no I'm asking if you support critically or uncritically the allies in ww2.

If you support the allies even though they committed war crimes and you don't at least uncritically support an oppressed peoples struggle then you are at best a hypocrite and at worst a racist.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Swap excess money for excess natural resources and you've got the US

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (27 children)

Hamas wants hostages to do a hostage swap for Palestinians that Israel is holding hostage in their prisons.

This is true of any organisation fighting a nation state.

The IRA did hostage swaps with the British government and this was one of the reasons there is peace in northern Ireland.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/18/prisoner-swaps-cornerstone-northern-ireland

Edit: looking at tavarins comment history it is most likely they are a Zionist mouthpiece. Hope they are getting paid and not doing unpaid labour ❤

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (42 children)

Alright what about warcrimes committed by resistance fighters and the allied forced during ww2?

If you support those groups even though they have done bad shit then you're a hypocrite and you should try and understand why you consider them differently.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (46 children)

Israel doesn't represent every Jew that ever lived around the world.

Yes I support the Warsaw uprising.

Yes I support the dismantlement of apartheid states.

These are not conflicting stances.

If the oppressed become an oppressor my stance can change on them. Not taking the side of the oppressed while they are being oppressed is cowardly and indirectly supports the status quo/the oppressor.

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