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Posting several links so that one of them will be clickable in your client of choice.

[email protected]
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https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]
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https://lemm.ee/c/carnivore

The community here on LW was intended as a harassment community, which violates the Lemmy.World ToS and will not be tolerated.

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It's a 1 year old study but pretty strong and highly relevant

Dr Ken Berry interviewing the study authors

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There were a few points mentioned by @[email protected] about the negative aspect of carnivore diets on health: https://lemmy.world/comment/14453309

Here are some sources on why the carnivore diet is completely unhealthy:

While there is debate in the scientific community over just how much meat belongs in a human diet, it is impossible for all or even most humans to eat primarily meat. Beef production at the scale required to feed billions of humans even at current levels of consumption is environmentally unsustainable. It is not even healthy from a theoretical evolutionary viewpoint, the microbiome expert Gilbert explained to me. Carnivores need to eat meat or else they die; humans do not. “The carnivore gastrointestinal tract is completely different from the human gastrointestinal tract, which is made up of a system designed to consume large quantities of complex fibers.”

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Christopher Gardner, a professor of medicine at Stanford University, is less convinced by the evidence.

“Are these T rex? African lions? Or humans? Assuming [you are referring to] humans, this sounds disastrous on multiple levels,” he said.

The lack of dietary fibre in an all-meat diet is likely to wreak havoc on the bacteria in our colons, known as the microbiome, he said. “Growing evidence suggests that in the absence of adequate fibre, the bacteria in the colon consume and thin the protective mucus lining, which then leads to impaired immune function and inflammation.”

Eating more meat also contributes to a rise in a substance called trimethylamine N-oxide in the blood which, according to research by the Cleveland Heart Lab, may be as bad for heart disease as saturated fat and elevated cholesterol.

Factory farming of animals is also linked to antibiotic resistance in humans and is a huge contributor to the greenhouse gases that contribute to global warming.

“In summary, I think a ‘carnivore diet’ is inappropriate for human health, bad for the health of our planet, abusive of the human labour force that handles the preparation of meat, abusive of animal rights and welfare,” he said.

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By skipping fruits and vegetables, people likely won’t get enough fiber in their diets, which can affect gut health. They also will miss out on carotenoids and polyphenols, substances with antioxidant properties that have been linked to lower risk of chronic diseases such as Type 2 diabetes and some types of cancer. Animal products also contain high amounts of saturated fat and cholesterol.

In addition to the potentially adverse health effects of the diet, Willett, professor of epidemiology and nutrition, noted that industrial production of animal-based foods is harmful to the planet. “There’s also the issue of justice that basically the Global North—Europe [and] the United States—cause most of the problems with climate change that we have today, and this sort of perpetuates that.”

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Just a touch (hackertalks.com)
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New Moderator (hackertalks.com)
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There are currently two carnivore communities.

This one [email protected]

And [email protected]

UPDATE -

After some conversations, I realize there are different moderation styles, and my very fact based let's be friend version may not represent everyone fairly. I'm happy to announce @[email protected] Will be moderating [email protected]

I'll keep running [email protected], with my "be nice" style.

I'm genuinely excited to get more voices in the space!

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Vegan said what??? (lemmy.world)
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I think this can be a place to post the most daft stuff vegans say, ideally with links.

I will start with

Cows, pigs, sheeps, etc. are raped (no consent) and sexually assaulted (against their will) for dairy, meat, wool...

https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/15551150

🤣🤣🤣

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My partner (36 XX) is two months in to very strict carnivore, eating exclusively beef mince and grass fed butter. Total intake is 1-1.5kg been mince and 200-300g butter per day. The only beverage is water or Powerade (sugar free, acesulfame K, sucralose).

Her ketones on a blood meter are consistently low, maxing out at 0.2 mmol/L today. She feels tired, fatigued, and has burning in muscles suggesting lactic acid being elevated.

Just looking to see if anyone has seen something similar and if so what the solution was? Thanks

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Users are being chased away from this sub by vegan brigading

Every carnivore comment and post is instantly voted to -2

Each anti carnivore comment is instantly upvoted

Mods: You really should do more to make this a safe place to talk about carnivore without risking karma

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I’m not some out-n-out rampant meat evangelical. I eat some. I eat most things.

A post came up in my ‘all’ feed which happened to be from a vegan community. I didn’t even look at the community, I just added a quick reply to the post.

It was something like “Another benefit of being a vegan is not worrying about contaminated chopping boards”.

I said simply “Thank goodness hot water and soap exists”. Or something like that.

I got banned instantly and couldn’t even reply to the person who posted after me along the lines of “you are clearly outing yourself as a Carnist and you’ll find no love here.”

I’ve got nothing against vegans as such and have enjoyed many a vegan meal. I find this knee-jerk banning and blocking a very sad and pathetic reaction. No wonder ‘The Left’ in all its forms is so easily targeted as ‘cancel-happy snowflakes’.

I say this as a rock-hard Lefty.

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The path for meat: Farm ➡️ abattoir ➡️ butcher ➡️ consumer

Not a lot of value adding steps

The path for wheat: Farm ➡️ factory (make flour) ➡️ factory (combine with other ingredients, cook or not) ➡️ distributor ➡️ supermarket

Lots of value add, lots of transport, lots of profit to make, even if you don't count the illness and medication caused by a meat free diet

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We all know this, but this might be a good article to share with friends and relatives, it's two years old, but I hadn't seen it before.

TLDR: University of Adelaide (in Australia) scientists examined meat eating in cultures world wide, and found that more meat correlates with longer life.

They point out that previous research efforts indicating meat causes bad health are badly designed and suspect on the face of them, but even more suspect with this study

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Recipe: Just plain ol' turkey, injected with a mix of salt, korean chili powder & old bay seasoning. I seasoned the outside and added a marinade of Italian dressing.

Equipment: 18" Weber kettle (AKA, the baby Weber)

Fuel: charcoal with hickory wood chunks.

image of raw turkey legs on a barbecue grill

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Carnivore makes me feel the best, weight loss is great, energy is great, inflammation and sore joints are less of an issue. But my favorite perk?

The MEAT!

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Steak Water and Salt

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All day long I want to eat ribeyes. But they get expensive.