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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Desperate-Produce-29 on 2025-01-29 20:42:15+00:00.


Uhhhhh.... wtf

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Nervous_Source_810 on 2025-01-30 07:18:44+00:00.


Understandably, due to this illness, we tend to focus on negative aspects/advice to prevent negative consequences. Also, this illness comes with a huge loss of control.

I am very curious on things that give YOU back energy? This does not mean that those activities really widen your energy envelope or anything, but just things that feel like they recharge you - whatever that feels or means to you. I will start.

  • my partner massaging my back and face
  • crocheting
  • Playing Stardew Valley (for a short amount of time but I want to focus on positive aspects)
  • Body Relaxation Techniques / being able to rest
  • snow outside and feeling cozy inside
  • watching a thunderstorm but it is not too loud
  • cozy blankets
  • coloring (mandala)
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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/pieces_of_life_ on 2025-01-30 01:07:42+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/TheGreatK on 2025-01-29 23:29:23+00:00.


Hello! My name is Andrew and I'm a private disability attorney who has developed a niche representing claimants with ME. I wanted to share some basic information I often share when I consult with people who are considering filing for disability benefits. I hope you find this helpful - if you do, please let me know and I will post more as time allows!

First, it is important to define "disability benefits" in this context.

There are multiple sources of disability benefits, and the availability of such benefits depends on several factors.

The most commonly known source of disability benefits is Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI). These benefits are provided by the federal government and are available to any American who has paid taxes long enough to earn eligibility. In order to file a claim, you must be out of work for five months and expect to be out of work for at least a year. To qualify, you basically need to prove you are unable to work in any capacity. The amount you receive depends on your income level, with the maximum individual amount being $4,018 per month, with a 50% bonus on top if you have dependents. It is generally very difficult to obtain SSDI benefits, and can take several years if you are required to appeal an initial denial, which required for most applicants. 

Certain states also offer State Disability. California, for example, pays up to $60,000 for 52 weeks if you are unable to work in your own occupation due to an injury or illness.

If your are disabled due to a work related injury, you can file for worker's compensation (WC) benefits. While most assume this wouldn't apply to people with ME, it can apply in certain circumstances. For example, many cases of ME are linked to Long Covid, and if the Covid exposure can be linked to the workplace, you are at least eligible to file a WC claim.  

The final source of disability benefits come from private disability insurance, either in the form of Short Term Disability (STD) or Long Term Disability (LTD). Most people get this coverage through their employer, though insurance companies also offer individual LTD policies. (This is my primary area of legal expertise.)

Second, there are some universal steps you can take which will help you prepare for filing any (or all) of these claims:

-Make sure your physician is supportive. If you haven't spoken with them about your concerns, make sure to do so explicitly. Don't be a superhero - if you don't share the extent of your suffering, it won't be reflected in the records, and it will be harder to get your claim paid. Your claim will not get off the ground without a supportive physician.

-If you don't have a supportive physician, find one now. You don't need to abandon your current physician if they provide good care but are merely unwilling to support disability. Just find another one (a specialist, if possible) who will support you. Be careful trying to convince your current physician if they are steadfastly opposed - this could just as easily make them double down and record objections to your disability rather than get them to change their opinion.

-Check your medical records before you submit them. If there are any inaccuracies, ask that they be corrected, as you have a right to correct records under HIPAA. If there is insufficient support for disability, make sure your doctor is willing to provide additional information via letter or future medical records. - In regard to private disability, make sure to request and review your policies before you file any claims. Pay special attention to any exclusions or limitations, especially for pre-existing conditions and/or "Fatigue Related Illnesses."

-Assume what you tell your employer about temporary leave or accommodations will eventually be shared with whomever is assessing your disability; so be careful not to try to downplay your disability to your employer in order to maintain employment, as it may undermine your disability status down the road. This is especially important when dealing with private insurance, which will do whatever it can to undermine your claim at every opportunity.

-Get a free consultation from a lawyer. I give free consultations, as do pretty much every LTD and SSDI lawyer I know. There's never a reason to pay a lawyer for a consultation in this niche, and we can often provide important info which will help you navigate your claim in its initial stages.

-Finally, research yourself on social media. I'm sure your account is private, but 1) your friends' accounts often are not private, and 2) insurers and claim reps love to impersonate random "friends" in the hope you mindlessly accept, and gain access (legally) to your profiles that way. Assume everything you post on any social media platform will be seen - including this one!

Thanks for taking the time to read this, and best to all of you!

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/makethislifecount on 2025-01-29 23:24:13+00:00.


I struggled with the word “Pacing” for the longest time. I think it’s a confusing naming mistake, much like CFS is a naming mistake for this illness. Because in common vernacular for most people, pacing means to “keep pace” .. i.e. do a steady pace. So people often confuse it to mean “do as much as you can right now, but not more”.

It took me a long time to learn that in our world, “Pacing” means doing LESS than you can. If I could rename it, I would call it “Playing safe” or “Protecting” or something clearer on the intent of what it is supposed to mean for us.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/AnnoyedAFexmo on 2025-01-29 21:08:22+00:00.


Sorry for the late post I spent all day playing Pokemon Legends Arceus trying to get shiny enamorus yesterday. I hope that is excusable

All joking aside my update.

Since Tuesday last week I have taken 3 trips that should not have been possible but I have suffered no ill effects. In fact for the first time since I got ill, I've been getting noticeably stronger. In between were days of working on my hair detangling it for up to 3 hours a day.

I went on another 2 mile walk up a very steep uphill part for most of it which was extremely challenging but 2 days later I'm no worse for wear for the first time.

I can breathe, being upright doesn't challenge me sitting up for hours like it used to. My sound sensitivity also seems to be getting better slowly as well.

Hearing about Chinese New Year tonight I think I might be able to go out instead of groans that I might be missing out on yet another thing.

I feel whole in a way I haven't felt in so long and I'm starting to think of dreams and activities I want to do.

I want to take my gf to a museum next week and I'm not in fear of pushing myself the way I used to.

I might even be able to walk around it a decent amount this time.

It's overwhelming in a good way but after all this time it feels so so bizarre.

The grief of years has built up and hits me from time to time, all the emotions I buried for so long because they would crush me. But I can experience and interact with them in ways I couldn't before.

It feels like returning home after a long time away.

I hope you all get to experience this too someday

TLDR: Still doing great no PEM just adjusting

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Curious-Mousse-3055 on 2025-01-29 21:05:17+00:00.


How old were you when you got ill, how long have you been sick, and what stage are you at motility and crashing wise?

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/b1gbunny on 2025-01-29 19:58:59+00:00.


I'm only 35 and I'm having an Old Man Yells at Cloud moment everyday when I'm not too severe to care.

For example: Cryptocurrency? Don't totally understand but seems like a pyramid scheme. AI? So it just summarizes websites en masse and regurgitates it?

Before becoming ill, I had a small following on social media for my illustration, art and animation. I did some comics, too. It was a nice way to easily share art with people and I even had some "fans". I could stay on top of the algorithms, stayed on top of culture and tech etc etc.

The last time I was "on top" of these things was like... 2020. When I attempt to get on now, I'm completely overwhelmed. I can't stand Tiktok for more than 10 seconds. I use reddit on a desktop, and use the "old.reddit" extension b/c "new" reddit (its like 5 years old now) is too much to me. Watching TV is like having a trumpet blown at full volume in my face.

I can't keep up, and I'm probably getting left behind. I'm not exactly sad about this because I've always thought so much of this was bullshit anyways. But I had to play at being at least somewhat in touch with things for my work (graphic design, art and illustration).

There is some liberty in watching the busy-ness of the world pass by you, but I am afraid of being completely left behind, what that will be like, and what I'll be missing out on.

This is an observation more than a vent... a thought I'd share with folks who probably feel similarly.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/New-Substrate on 2025-01-29 18:28:14+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/shuffling-the-ruins on 2025-01-29 16:53:57+00:00.


We're not even two weeks in and already chaos reigns. How are my fellow afflicted in the US managing right now? What strategies/tools are you using to chill out your nervous system, or maybe thinking you might try? This is next level stress for me and my usual meditatiom app is like umbrella in a hurricane.

(And while venting about the oligarchy of ogres is certainly one coping mechanism, I humbly request not veering into a political discussion. My anxiety is already on overdrive and I'd very much appreciate hearing what others are relying on to get through.)

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Shot-Contract-5254 on 2025-01-29 14:25:27+00:00.


I started experiencing symptoms around age 11/12. At this point in time I was already overweight and so the doctors (understandably but still annoyingly) assumed it was something to do with my weight. I got blood tests and told to eat less, move more and eat healthier. Started a plan with a nutritionist and lost 20kgs over a year and a half. Back to a healthy weight, went to the doctors, finally diagnosed at 13 with ME. Went from mild to moderate and had to be home schooled for a while.

The only thing I could do was study, lay in bed and eat. I gained all the weight back and now even though my ME has subsided enough for me to return to school, life is hell. Nobody understands why I use a cane or wheelchair on especially bad days, I am either seen as too young to really have anything wrong or just lazy because I'm obese or both.

I feel so disconnected from everyone. Taking a disabled seat in the bus on a day where I don't need my wheelchair makes me feel like a total fraud. Extended family doesn't understand, even my close family (my mother in particular) seem to doubt my diagnosis and think I'm just lazy. I feel judged by my peers and my teachers and it hurts. It hurts a lot. I get odd looks when I'm out in public which is soul crushing because half the time i can't be out. When I finally have enough energy and I go hang out with my friends (which I barely have any of because of my ME, they can do things I can't) I get stared at and it makes me want to just shut myself inside all day.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Edai_Crplnk on 2025-01-29 12:48:02+00:00.


I can eat sittig up most times but in PEM it becomes really difficult to sit up that long. I'm somewhat comfortable eating while lying down but not meals are accessible this way.

I figured maybe some people had fav meal to eat lying down? Things you like and are accessible, and possibly also easy to put together during bad days?

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Automatic_Cook8120 on 2025-01-29 15:34:26+00:00.


If you haven't visited the US CDC's webpages about MECFS, if you have the bandwidth to do it, they actually have some really good resources on there. There are things you can print out for yourself or your provider.

Who knows how long they will stay up the way that they are, if you haven't looked at them since last May check them out. They're actually really good.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Ok_Consequence8921 on 2025-01-29 15:25:22+00:00.


Wondering if anyone has this issue? once in a while i get into an argument with my partner. nothing crazy maybe just a 30 seconds long thing. and within 48 hours i get the worst PEM. I feel so sick that I just wanna die. However if i walk a short distance for 5-10min slowly around the block (stay within my limits) and come home nothing happens. why? I was in mexico last year and actually went for a swim in the ocean with help of a friend and i didn’t get PEM as bad as i get after arguments.

Is there any way of preventing this from happening after the event? I mean arguments are part of life there is no way of preventing it. so i would like to know how i can prevent a PEM to manifest after the a short stressful event has just happened?

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/fugapku on 2025-01-29 09:02:36+00:00.


Despite affecting millions, Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) remains poorly understood. EU Lawmakers stress the urgent need for research funding and better diagnostics to support patients. Will this finally lead to action?

🔗 Full article

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Toasterbathingisfun on 2025-01-29 08:02:37+00:00.


So I had a home visit with my GP as I’m not able to leave my house due to severe ME. Everything was going fine until he started saying stuff that sounded so familiar until I finally realised he was speaking about brain retraining💀 like dude of course I’ve heard about it, it doesn’t work. I also started crying as I am having a really hard time controlling my emotions, which was kinda embarrassing but whatever. He did kinda get guilted into agreeing it was bad though so a win is a win ig.

Anyways I told him about my heart pain that I have every single day and he listens to my heart for a few seconds says everything is fine then just moves on and doesn’t mention it again. Didn’t even give an explanation why I might be having heart pain.

Like the only good thing that came out of this appointment was that I got my blood drawn, everything else sucked and I miss my former CFS doctor who was a specialist as he was really nice and always had something to try.

I hate doctors.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/thatqueerfrogger on 2025-01-29 02:40:05+00:00.


How many people get sore throats and what does it feel like for you? Do some people get dry/scratchy/uncomfortable throats rather than a full-blown sore throat?

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/shanmurp on 2025-01-29 00:54:26+00:00.


I am writing on behalf of my daughter who is very severe. Last February had colossal crash and has been unable to do anything except lie in bed. Needs full time care. When PEM crashes occur, cannot tolerate light, sound, movement. Can’t eat solid food.

She had some improvement this summer using Rapamyacin. Prozac also helped. Was able to sit up and eat food, able to talk/converse without problems. After a few months, the gains stopped and she crashed again.

The Prozac has been a PEM shielder, but she has had to go up 10 mg every so often and is now at the limit (60 mg—she is a small person).

Currently she is crashing with any small thing—even sipping a drink. Can’t tolerate light, sound, etc., again. She has tried Valtrex for 6 mos., LDN, LDA, some peptides, all sorts of supplements…. Does anyone have ideas about the success of the mechanisms of the Rapamyacin (3mg a week)and Prozac; and if so, do you have any suggestions for medications that work in a similar way? We would greatly appreciate your help.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/googloog on 2025-01-28 22:50:39+00:00.


I just got fired from my job for taking too much time off because of my CFS/Long Covid. I have No idea what I’m going to do now. Disability takes a year or more to get, unemployment only lasts 6 months. How am I supposed to survive??? How is there no institutionalized support in the U.S. for people like us? We are forced into these horrible situations where we can either take care of our health or work just to scrape by. And I know it’s not just us, so many people here are injured on the job and then the job refuses to pay so they get even worse! What the hell? How is this country even real? /end rant

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Tom0laSFW on 2025-01-28 19:42:53+00:00.


Edit: the flair additions are not mandatory, they’re just there if you want to indicate your post may be only relevant for certain folks. Just an experiment to see if this helps!

Hi folks, just a reminder that this is a community of people with an extremely stigmatised illness with, often, very poor long term outlooks. We are also targeted daily by predators who want to steal our money, or get us to do things that could deteriorate or even kill us. Most of us have been subjected to medical gaslighting, rejection by friends and family, disbelief by loved ones, toxic positivity, endless ableism, and other forms of abuse. Many of us cannot work and are at the mercy of cruel and austere welfare systems, many others are forced to use all their energy and more on working to scrape a survival.

WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER

Severe and very severe folks are on the other side of a looking glass that most will, thankfully, never cross. It’s been said many times that mild and moderate folks have more in common with healthy people than they do with severe folks. Life, and perspectives, often change permanently and radically when you get confined to bed and have to ration out things like speech, daylight, or sound. It often also comes with added challenges in emotional regulation which can make people more reactive.

None of that means that mild or moderate people are less valid or deserve to be here less. This is one of the premier resources in the entire world for ME/CFS. We are almost entirely abandoned by the medical community. The reason I spend my limited energy on modding is because one of the only positives I can find in my condition is potentially helping others avoid ending up where I am. That means mild and moderate people. If those people are being driven away, it means they’re being driven into the arms of the other subs where they promote graded exercise and brain retraining.

We all need to tread a fine balance between respecting others situations and respectfully asking questions when we get people offering advice after they cured their “chronic fatigue” (not CFS), when people are promoting dangerous ideas like ignoring PEM, when someone thinks a new supplement or diet change has cured them, or the other regular topics we see here. We’ve debated what to do with some of these at length this week.

Please bear the following points in mind when you come across a post that you think is potentially inappropriate or may be from someone who has a different experience of ME than you:

1). Always be respectful and civil. We have strict rules on civility here, stricter than most. Keep things civil, and report anything that’s out of line.

2). No severity gatekeeping. This is a place for mild and moderate folks too. They get to discuss how to manage their lives and conditions. We are adding a “mild CFS” flair. If you find these topics upsetting then consider filtering these out.

3). Similarly, be respectful of the more severe folks and their uniquely difficult position. It’s usually probably better to not engage if someone is looking for an argument. If someone is being uncivil or otherwise rule breaking, please report it via the usual methods.

Remember that this is a poorly diagnosed condition and most doctors are woefully unequipped to manage it. Many people are in possession terrible information about this condition. If we’re nice to people, and point them to useful and reliable information, we can maybe educate some folks. We can’t do this if we are busy fighting with one another. We don’t have many spaces where we can gather and be seen. Let’s try and look out for one another other where we can.

As ever, if you see something inappropriate either as a post or in a comment, please go ahead and report it and we will look into it as soon as we are able.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Kyliewoo123 on 2025-01-28 17:26:45+00:00.


I understand many of us have extensive trauma from healthcare providers, friends, family, strangers, media etc invalidating our illness, calling it psychosomatic, suggesting we are lazy and need to just exercise and get therapy. I have this experience too.

I hope that we can still accept people in our community who have MECFS diagnosis but can still work full time, have hobbies, and even exercise. They do exist.

Some people make improvements with better emotional control. Not because this is psychosomatic, but because big emotions take up spoons.

Some people make improvements with exercise, because if you can exercise without PEM you can make up for orthostatic intolerance.

Majority of us are completely disabled, unable to work, socialize, walk, cook, bathe etc. I definitely am. And I of course am envious of those who are less disabled than me. But I hope we can try our best to support and validate everyone in our community (assuming they are treating us with respect and kindness as well).

I’m sure there is a large group of people who are struggling to keep up with life due to very mild MECFS that has been misdiagnosed by doctors as burnout, depression, “being out of shape,” or just a normal experience

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Competitive-Golf-979 on 2025-01-27 23:54:40+00:00.


I sometimes think having cancer would be easier. Pain medicine rarely takes the pain down and it gets so bad I can hardly move my legs once I lay down. I am crying in pain today and it's been so long since I've pushed myself this bad.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/niccolowrld on 2025-01-28 03:36:31+00:00.


One infection (C19) took me to severe bedbound. One single infection.

Be careful out there!

I turned 27 and I was just entering my 3rd year with this disease. Life was liveable, tough but liveable. Now it’s just tough.

I often wonder how many more mild/moderate years I could have had if I was more careful. I would do anything to go back.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Accurate-Kiwi5323 on 2025-01-28 01:58:52+00:00.


I've been told by several doctors my blood tests are "fine" and that the reason I feel so physically unwell it's honestly really sad because I can't fully function in life and have missed out on so many important events and opportunities in my life. I feel I haven't developed as a person much because I feel so fatigued I say no to everything.

Anyways, here are my most recent blood results. I mean it's from the end of 2023 because I am terrified of blood drawing and get white faced and almost pass out each time. Home sleep study 5 ahi 15 RDI

Doctors are like oh you're completely fine. Then why do I feel so horrible? All this started once I cold turkied off Lexapro 6 years ago.

I feel so shitty, constant fatigue and the feeling when you're sick, malaise, dark bags under my eyes, never refreshed from sleep, randomly have flushed face/cheeks, randomly wake up and can't fall asleep for hours, a few times I've woke up gasping for air. Hahahahha I'm so sick of being sick.

I am glad I found this place. I relate to you all so much. I wish I could just quit my job and lay in bed all day so bad....

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/TrickPermission7925 on 2025-01-28 01:09:26+00:00.


That’s it. Just had to vent.

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