Chronic Fatigue Syndrome / Myalgic Encephalomyelitis

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/googloog on 2025-01-31 22:24:55+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Successful-Tackle378 on 2025-01-31 18:19:39+00:00.


a couple of sources on Bluesky are saying the entire CDC website is being taken down tomorrow. just in case might be worth downloading or printing the me/cfs section and whatever else you need today

Don’t mean to spread rumors But wanted to share in case

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/younessas on 2025-01-31 14:30:43+00:00.


I'm so severe I think I will die , I can't tell if dark helps me or not cause I feel no rest or freshing from it, Or it's normal for cfs if sleep is unrefreshing how can only dark be restful and refreshing

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/microwavedwood on 2025-01-31 17:05:20+00:00.


For me I usually don't have it in my dreams, but occasionally I do

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/No_Firefighter6138 on 2025-01-31 14:44:56+00:00.


i have pots/cfs and no matter how much i rest i still have sleepy feeling eyes, its hard to explain but theres so much tension and pressure behind my eyes, and a constant 'out of it feeling'. i dont think its associated with my pots as it doesnt change if i'm standing/lying down. does anybody else experience this? has anybody else gotten rid of it ?

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/bengalbear24 on 2025-01-30 20:06:21+00:00.


I explained that I am still able to walk and do some things, but am limited in the activities I can do and need to rest and take things slower, yet still they all said no, they wouldn’t consider dating someone like me (they were all looking for a healthy active partner). It’s not really surprising, just extremely disappointing and disheartening. It pretty much proves what I’ve already experienced (based on tons of rejections on dates), which is that men don’t want to date or marry a woman with chronic pain/illness. It sucks and it makes me feel so worthless. I just ended a relationship that was abusive (with a man who also had chronic pain) and I am feeling very hopeless about the prospect of being able to find a lifetime partner.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Dumb_Goldie on 2025-01-31 12:32:24+00:00.


Lately I’ve noticed that I make people feel bad when I correct them about specific things, mostly my accommodations at school.

The first one is my memory aid. Because of the brain fog and that MECFS is believed(known?) to cause brain inflammation, I can make a sheet of paper with little symbols or things to help aid my memory during tests, that way I can function with the memory my classmates do. There are a lot of people who call it a cheat sheet, and I really hate when it gets called that. Calling it a cheat sheet makes it sound like I’m a cheater and that I’m cheating. I know it isn’t what they mean by it, but it still makes me upset so I tell them “it’s similar to a cheat sheet, but it isn’t one because I’m not cheating. It’s a memory aid because of my condition that causes me to struggle to recall memories.” And then people get upset at me even though I thought I was respectful and kind about it.

Then yesterday one of my friends said something about another accommodation of mine. Another one I have is the ability to miss class without permission or getting in trouble because of how unpredictable my symptoms can be. A friend referred to it as me “being able to skip class” whenever I want, which really hurt my feelings and when I explained that his way of explaining it hurt me and is wrong he got upset.

Does anyone have any advice or should I just accept I’m gonna upset people

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/-----TrInItY----- on 2025-01-30 21:28:00+00:00.


How do we know we will ever get better? How can we keep resting in bed all day? Maybe that is all our life is ever gonna be. So maybe we should do something. I dunno maybe I am crazy lol

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/dumbwizzard on 2025-01-31 01:59:14+00:00.

Original Title: I’m really struggling to not feel really angry when a close friend regularly updates me about her fitness/pilates classes. I am so aware that it’s jealousy I’m feeling. But I wonder if anyone has experienced a similar thing and how they went about discussing it / putting up a boundary?

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/rosedraws on 2025-01-31 00:15:32+00:00.


Note: I'm mild and appear to be getting back to my pre-crash baseline, so my post includes a fair amount of activity I am able to do lately.

I started taking Mary Ruth's CoQ10 Liposomal liquid. A teaspoon is 75mg. I take it in the morning.

I've been feeling a little better lately, and after 3 days of this stuff I actually did not need a nap today! woohoo!

But... I realized that I've been very restless. And today, I rage responded to someone on Reddit, and I rage responded to an ignorant comment on Facebook. Then I rage emailed a web developer we hired for a project, because it has been poor work and she was blaming us for the delays. Then I still wasn't done and rage emailed digital marketing guy we hired who accused me of doing something I hadn't done at all. Good lord!!

So... maybe see if I can take HALF a teaspoon of this stuff???

Another data point I did not expect: my heart rate and "stress" (as recorded by my Garmin - take with a grain of salt) were actually pretty good today. Kinda shocking with all the rage.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/bkwonderwoman on 2025-01-30 19:46:50+00:00.


I'm wondering if anyone can relate to this. When I wake up my eyes feel SO tired. Every single morning when I wake up it literally feels like I've been on a three day bender. I'm sure most if not all of us here know this feeling. As of now the only way I've been able to transition into life is by scrolling in bed for an hour or so, because it's kind of an in between place for my eyes - meaning I'm not falling back alseep but my eyes are so tired I can't do anything else. But I feel like this is not a great way to start the day. First of all it gives me anxiety because I'm seeing so much shit first thing in the morning. It also just feels like a lot of phone time in general, I feel like part of me gets stuck in bed scrolling and it makes it even harder sometimes to get out of bed. Does anyone have any suggestions of what worked for them or does anyone relate?

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/GetOffMyLawn_ on 2025-01-30 18:57:16+00:00.


Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) afflicts more than 2 million people nationwide. People with ME/CFS live with debilitating symptoms including exhaustion, exercise intolerance, cognitive problems, and a worsening of symptoms after even mild exertion (known as post-exertional malaise).

The causes of ME/CFS remain poorly understood, although many people first develop symptoms after a viral infection. This gap in understanding limits both diagnosis and the development of treatments.

A team of NIH researchers led by Drs. Paul Hwang, Avindra Nath, and Brian Walitt have been studying a woman who took days to recover after physical exertion and several of her relatives at the NIH Clinical Center. Their findings were published on August 22, 2023, in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Tests done while the woman was exercising found a very slow recovery of cellular energy production after exertion. Muscle cells taken from the patient and examined in the lab showed reduced oxygen use. Oxygen is used by mitochondria, the cell compartment that makes energy molecules.

Further laboratory studies led the team to a protein called WASF3. This protein, which was boosted in response to cellular stress, disrupted the cells’ energy production. Blocking WASF3 allowed mitochondria to produce energy at normal levels. The team then showed that extra WASF3 in the cells interfered with formation of the structures that mitochondria use to produce energy.

To better understand the role of WASF3, the team engineered mice to produce excess WASF3. They found that, similar to people with post-exertional malaise, muscles in these mice were slow to recover after exercise. The mice also showed a 50% reduction in their ability to run on a treadmill, even though their muscle strength was comparable to mice without extra WASF3.

To see if WASF3 dysfunction might be involved in ME/CFS, the team compared muscle tissue samples taken from 14 people with ME/CFS to samples from 10 healthy volunteers. They found substantially higher levels of WASF3 in most of the people with ME/CFS.

This dysfunctional increase in WASF3 seemed to be linked to impairment of a cellular signaling pathway called the ER stress pathway. When the team treated human muscle cells with a compound known to increase ER stress, they saw a corresponding harmful increase in WASF3.

The researchers treated cells from the initial study participant with an experimental drug, called salubrinal, known to reduce ER stress. After this treatment, WASF3 levels decreased in the cells, more mitochondrial energy complexes formed, and energy production improved.

“We hope to embark on clinical studies to investigate whether this type of strategy can also work in patients to improve energy levels,” Hwang says.

Mitochondrial dysfunction has been found in some people with Long COVID and other conditions that include fatigue. More research is needed to understand whether targeting ER stress may also be a promising approach for these conditions.

—by Sharon Reynolds

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Dryrange12 on 2025-01-31 01:05:25+00:00.


I just fell into maas hysteria after seeing an Instagram video of a person exercising and being in shape.

I can't explain it how much it hurts. I'm happy for them but it just reminded how an average human reacts which time and consistency.

Even a non athletic person can potentially lap everyone.

I say this because I'm scared. It's not just exercise. It's how "fit" an average person is and how I don't compare.

I've been ill for years usually these things don't get to me. But I'm in a bad space.

The realisation..... that that's is the standard. I'm just struggling to walk, to think....

My body and heart wants so much more and this desire is going to make me implode mentally.

I'm wondering if this agony is worth it . I will endure... But everything feels so far away

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Ok-Perception-1975 on 2025-01-31 00:20:15+00:00.


I've recently accepting having CFS (been an issue for almost 4 years now).

I am not officially diagnosed, but it's pretty obvious due to my symptoms and severity. I'm not ready to officially pursue the diagnosis immediately but want to slowly work towards it. I know it's a difficult process.

The question - is it legitimate to tell people I have ME/CFS without the official diagnosis? I feel like I shouldn't be telling anyone that until it's officially diagnosed, but it would help to explain to certain people what's going on.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/disqersive on 2025-01-30 17:20:41+00:00.


It had just been my 37th birthday last week and I had asked my friends and community to donate five dollars to my boyfriends Venmo so I could get a big session of acupuncture and massage from a great practitioner I know. The first surprise was how many people donated. It turns out my boyfriend had also emailed a bunch of my friends to remind them it was my birthday and how hard it has been for me and sent them a pdf of Ed Yong's essay "Fatigue Can Shatter a Person" (which I recommend folks here save and send to anyone you think would be receptive)

I've been off work for two months now after sliding from the low-end of moderate to severe. I've had to stop driving, socializing. I am still learning how to pace and figure out what gives me PEM. No longer leaving the house for other than doctors appointments/other healing modalities, with great sadness. It's possible that video calls are causing me PEM as well, which is new. My daily symptoms, just like all of you here, have left me extremely changed from who I was are year ago or even four months ago.

My acupuncturist is very sweet and knowledgeable, knows cranial sacral massage, herbs and is training to be a functional medicine practitioner. Acupuncture has always been something I responded positively to. In our first session, she let me know that she could do sliding scale for me after hearing that I had to leave my job. What A relieving thing to hear obviously.

She has chosen full throttle angel mode apparently.

I am in much more of a decline since I saw her that first time. I explained my doctor suspecting MECFS. I told her of all the symptoms. I got on the table and she gave me treatment for an hour. She worked on multiple parts of my body that are soooo tight, so tense and in a lot of pain, and treated those areas. As we were ending and my face was down in the hole, totally spaced out and muscles let loose from their tight grip for the first time in forever, she let me know that she thought my body was responding well to the treatment. She then gently stated that she wanted to offer me Weekly treatment free of charge for a few months. She said I really want you to feel better and I think this will help you. I was really fucking surprised and speechless. She was like if you want to pay that forward to someone else or come help me out with something when you feel better, great!

The spirit of mutuality is out there in people but it needs to grow. It needs to be like THE WAY of life. If every acupuncturist or massage practitioner out there could even offer one free session a month to someone with me/cfs, that would be such a shift in our feeling supported. If friends brought food once a week or once a month. Or even local people on a Facebook group. My deep hope for all of us dealing with energy-extinct illnesses is that more of these people show themselves, decide to take steps to offer care outside of the realm of the market, outside of familiar relations, so that we can get the things we need and feel taken care of.

TL;DR My acupuncturist offered to give me free weekly sessions because she wants me to feel better and knows I can't afford it. I recently became more severe and it's very heartening to meet people who care. My dream is that everyone here meets someone who offers them much needed help, free of charge. You all deserve that.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/blurple57 on 2025-01-30 16:37:35+00:00.


So I have had moderate M.E for the past 6ish years but in the last 6 months after catching covid in June I have been bed bound and severe. I am finally starting to come out of that, moving more towards moderate again - though I still spend most of my time in bed. I can now look at my phone, watch TV, even do some colouring. My problem is now I cannot make myself aggressively rest. I will lie down but I can't stop looking at my phone. I also have ADHD and I think this is a factor but I want to know your tips for actually resting and forcing yourself to have no stimulus. I was so good at it for so many months and now I feel like I am experiencing freedom after so many months of pain and I can't control myself.

Written with speech to text as I'm meant to be resting so sorry for any formatting or clunkiness

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/dopameanmuggin on 2025-01-30 17:16:42+00:00.


This post is aimed at those who have been living with me/cfs for at least a decade.

As many more people came to learn what we live with due to long COVID, the folks who have survived with this illness the longest (decades) really stepped up to offer hope to the newly afflicted. You told us you had never felt so hopeful that we may actually get a treatment (or at least better science, maybe a biomarker that could actually be used in diagnosis) bc there was finally money being applied to study post-infectious illness (including me/cfs) going to the NIH as a response to long covid.

With the current cessation (or “pause”) of ALL federal grant money, including to the NIH which gets most of its money for research from federal grants, the order to cease communication between domestic health agencies, and the ending of all NIH study sections, which means that even with money, the NIH cannot issue research grants (this impacts current ongoing studies as well), HOW ARE YOU?

You who have held on for so long. You who showed up for the newbies to this hell and said not only is it possible to find a reason to keep living, this is the most hopeful time to have this disease. It’s never been talked about so mainstream before and research has never been better funded. You who have waited for so long to be seen, and felt like finally, maybe you were. How are you?

How can the community support you? I know what crushing disappointment and honest fear I feel. I’m wondering how you who’ve survived and been ignored the longest are feeling. I want to show up for you.

Let’s please let this be a safe place for those among us who’ve had this illness the longest to express how they’re feeling with the change in administration already directly negatively changing health funding, research and communication (which affects EVERYONE, but we can know from history it will likely impact me/cfs research disproportionately heavily).

Thank you all for the hope you’ve given this community. You don’t have to put on a brave face in this post. I honestly want to check in and ask how you are doing.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Mission_Salt2888 on 2025-01-30 14:40:50+00:00.


i have not been having therapy sessions for about a year now because i felt like it was not helping me. my therapist also said it is okay for me to take a break because she has nothing she could tell me that i didnt already know. (and therapy in itself will not make my illness go away i know that. therapy was more about coping)

if it did anything it made me worse afterwards. so i stopped because for me there is no point in talking about the same stuff every time. and i feel like my mental health is as good as it can be when your 19 years old and have this illness.

but today i had a phone call with my me/cfs specialist and she said i should start therapy again. and now i don’t know what to do?

does someone have a similar experience? or advice what you would donin my situation?

i hope you all can understand what i mean. english i not my first language🥰

Edit: thank you for all your opinions❤️❤️❤️can’t answer everone individually

But what i will do is:

  1. ⁠look for a different therapist (and different kind of therapy) as my old one probably wasnt the perfect one.
  2. ⁠but before starting with a new therapist i will try some other things i talked about with my doctor (occupational therapy and other stuff)
  3. ⁠and if i don’t profit from it with other therapists i can always stop it if it makes me feel worse.

Also i am sure my doctor only meant well but she will understand if i wont continue because she always says that only i can say what helps me and what doesnt.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Curious-Mousse-3055 on 2025-01-30 11:47:29+00:00.


Does anyone here feel like they lost their personality, some IQ points, feelings like love and connection to nature, and even libido since becoming ill?

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Lunabuna91 on 2025-01-30 10:49:58+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/Hot-Pomegranate-4745 on 2025-01-30 09:51:54+00:00.


What do you guys think, if this really could help it's huge news. Has anyone here undergone such a procedure and what is your experience?

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The original was posted on /r/cfs by /u/wyundsr on 2025-01-29 21:49:53+00:00.


What's some media that's keeping you going amidst gestures wildly at the state of my country/the world? Here are a few of mine:

  • Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler
  • The Future is Disabled by Leah Lakshmi Piepzna-Samarasinha
  • Margaret Killjoy's newsletter:
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