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ABC now is picking up MNF due to lack of TV content made during the writers strike. Just financially speaking wouldn't the NFL get more eyes on the screen without so many games played at the same time?

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He's like the TE version of Trey Lance but he's actually good.

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Introduction

Hello,

We are halfway through the 2023 NFL season, and I wanted to do a quick look into some metrics pertaining to the QB position.

The two main ones are Completed Air Yards ("CAY") and Success Rate ("Succ%")

Completed Air Yards are the amount of yards traveled past the line of scrimmage minus Yards After Catch. Success Rate measures if a play gains at least 40% of yards required on 1st down, 60% of yards required on 2nd down, and 100% on 3rd or 4th down.

I decided to look at CAY because it controls for Yards After Catch, and may be more indicative of a QB's passing abilities. For instance, if a QB throws a slant for 5 yards, but it goes for a 50 yard TD, that was less a consequence of the QB and more a consequence of the receiver and blocking by teammates. Granted, football is a team sport, and even just looking at that is not a comprehensive look at the greatness of a QB; however, that coupled with Succ% gives some insight I think.

Again, not comprehensive, and that is not really what I am trying to go for anyway, but this is more so just to share some interesting findings.

Methodology

All data was taken from Pro Football Reference. I only chose QBs with a minimum of 97 pass attempts. The different metrics I looked at include CAY, CAY/PA, CAY/Cmp, and Succ%.

After copying all the data, I found the Z-score for each individual and their corresponding metric. Then, I did a two-tail test to see which Z-scores were statistically significant. I set alpha to 0.05.

Findings

Table 1

The table above is the dataset pertaining to each individual QB with their corresponding metrics.

Table 2

This table shows the Z-scores for each individual QB and their corresponding metric. The areas highlighted in green are Z-scores that were determined to be statistically significant.

Table 3

Table 4

Table 5

Tables 3-5 just show the graph version of the datasets from tables 1 and 2.

Z-Score Discussion

The only areas that were found to be statistically significant were the following:

P.J. Walker - CAY (lower end of distribution)

P.J. Walker - CAY/PA (lower end of distribution)

Joe Burrow - CAY/Cmp (lower end of distribution)

Brock Purdy - CAY/PA (upper end of distribution)

Brock Purdy - Succ% (upper end of distribution)

Matthew Stafford - CAY/Cmp (upper end of distribution)

The higher the success rate, obviously the better, and with Purdy his success rate is statistically significant. Some QB's that are close to the upper end (but for whom we would not reject the null hypothesis for) in terms of success rate only really include Allen, Tua, and Goff. On the lower end, Watson, Walker, Wilson and Jones are close, but again, do not cross that critical value of -1.959964.

Limitations

This is not all-encompassing. As far as assessing the QBs, Completed Air Yards and success rate are only part of the equation. There are non-football stat related things to keep in mind, such as personality, experience, age, teammates, and coaches. Taking those into account can help explain why the data is the way it is.

Additionally, a QB can make a great play not through the air. They could very well rush for a big gain or even a TD. This analysis only views the QB position through the prism of passing.

Conclusion

Overall, I think this is interesting, but incomplete. Further inquiry can be made to give a more comprehensive view of the QB position. However, with the metrics we are examining here, I think it is a decent start. Another analysis of this, with more metrics and at the end of the season, would probably be more insightful.

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Buck and Aikman have been a team for 22 years now. They have exceeded the tenure of the legendary pairing of Pat Summerall and John Madden.

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Just thought it was an interesting stat in almost four full seasons, every win has been closely competitive where a team was within 1-2 scores. Has any other team endured a stretch where they didn't beat a team by 3 scores or more for this long?

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I don't think teams tank as much they are claimed to do so, probably because it is not as beneficial of a strategy as one might think.

Let me first define what I mean by "tanking." Tanking in this context means deliberately losing on purpose to get the best possible draft pick. I do NOT consider tanking to be the same thing as a rebuild, where you do not expect to get good enough value for the salary, and so you trade away assets or simply let them walk in order to bring in younger and cheaper talent to develop. In doing so, you accept poorer performance along the way until you can develop that talent. When I ask about tanking I'm asking if teams not only do that, but also lose on purpose to improve their draft position.

First, research has shown that "top draft picks are significantly overvalued in a manner that is inconsistent with rational expectations and efficient markets, and consistent with psychological research." The basic reason is that there is a salary cap. No one can outspend any one else, and so you have to extract as much value for a fixed amount of money as possible. Top draft picks are better players than later picks, but they also command much higher salaries that tend to overcompensate them relative to others. The best value performance combo actually peaks in the LATE first round, and all picks after the first overall are on average better value until the early third round.

https://d3i71xaburhd42.cloudfront.net/61bbf4dd4aeb2e915f631832dc890f92a9a0c12c/58-FigureIV-1.png

source: 10.1287/mnsc.1120.1657

This has been dubbed "the loser's curse" because bad teams tend to pick good players but pay them too much, they cannot pay sufficient talent elsewhere on the field, and the team continues to perform poorly. And when you remove QBs from the calculation, this phenomenon becomes even more pronounced, because QBs are such high value and tend to be more reliable performers.

https://opensourcefootball.com/posts/2023-02-23-nfl-draft-value-chart/moo.png

source: https://opensourcefootball.com/posts/2023-02-23-nfl-draft-value-chart/

So it's better to just be mediocre or even good but not great. With the exception of an elite QB propsect, losing on purpose to go as high as possible in the draft is clearly a bad strategy because you are probably going to overpay. Even if there is an elite QB, the hype around that prospect could improve that player's negotiating position for him to demand more salary from you, increasing the risk of overpay.

Second, there is a cost to tanking. We as fans are only looking at the team as a whole. It may help the team to get a (nominally) better draft position by losing. But a team is composed of individual professional players and coaches, all of whom hope to continued to be employed as such. Losing winnable games certainly does not aid them in this pursuit. Even if losing on purpose was a good strategy, is it actually possible to get players to follow it, since it requires them to play worse deliberately, or frustrate the efforts of those who still play well? And how do you develop and maintain a winning culture and attitude while losing on purpose? Tanking is likely to cause you to alienate and waste the development of current talent, and fail to attract better talent from elsewhere in the league - all in favor of gaining an uncertain and likely to be overpaid draft pick.

Finally, I'm aware of only one situation in which someone inside an organization explicitly claimed that there was an aim to lose on purpose - Brian Flores's lawsuit, in which he claimed the Dolphins owner offered to pay him to lose. I don't know if these allegations were ever proven, but if true they are still illustrative - Brian Flores was so insulted by this offer he started a lawsuit (among other reasons). Deliberately losing is anathema to every single person who has poured a lifetime of blood, sweat, and tears into being a professional coach or player. I don't think enough players or coaches would accept it to begin with, simply because they are too disgusted by the idea.

In conclusion, I think the popular beliefs that this or that team are tanking derives from the disbelief that a team can really be as bad as it is. The truth is it's very difficult to win professional football games, so hard that some pros look like they are doing it on purpose. Especially because we love to be armchair QBs, HCs, and GMs, who think we know what a team should do, when in fact the vast majority of fans simply have no idea what they are talking about. And for fans of a specific bad team, it is copium. It makes you feel better to think your team has a strategy, when in fact they just suck this year, and may suck for the foreseeable future.

TL;DR - Although teams of course do rebuild, I don't think teams really tank, with perhaps rare exception of which I am not aware. It's questionable whether tanking actually works, and I don't think it's likely you'll get the players and coaches to actually sign on for a tanking campaign.

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Additionally they have rostered the 2011 2nd overall, 2014 2nd overall pick, and 2018 1st overall pick. Does this mean anything significant? No but it’s interesting nonetheless I don’t think any other team has rostered this many top picks.

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Pundits and fans are buzzing about the NFL levying a seemingly high number of fines for things like Unsportsmanlike Conduct and Helmet-to-Helmet hits on players this season. But are players actually getting fined more in 2023 than in the past? The answer is YES - in 2023 the NFL is projected to more than double the previous record number of fines levied on players in a season.

Excluding off-field fines (Missed Workouts, Detrimental Conduct, Personal Messages, and Off-Field Violations), the NFL is on pace for 524 on-field player fines over the full 2023 season. This would be 2.2X the previous record for the number on-field fines against players for on-field infractions:

Raw Data Source: Spotrac. Projected using a super sophisticated (18 weeks in a season / 8 weeks of data) multiplier

The sharp rise in the rate at which the NFL is fining players for on-field infractions in 2023 is also apparent in the actual value of on-field fines accrued. Even after adjusting for inflation or adjusting for changes in the NFL salary cap (which has outpaced inflation), players are set to lose the most money they have ever lost to player fines in 2023 at $7.6m:

Raw Data Source: Spotrac; FRED for Annualized US Urban CPI. *Projected using a super sophisticated (18 weeks in a season / 8 weeks of data) multiplier

The total number of on-field fines levied on players varies substantially across the 20+ years of actual data available . The Pittsburgh Steelers stand out - their 168 on-field player fines as a franchise are 64 higher than the second-place Baltimore Ravens and Tennessee Titans (104 each). The Los Angeles Chargers have the least fines against players over the available data at just 51 on-field player fines.

Raw Data Source: Spotrac.

Now for the fun part - a look at the players and teams that have set records for fines. Odell Beckham Jr., Deshaun Watson, Ndamukong Suh, and Robaire Smith all have earned distinguished NFL fine achievements in their times in the NFL. For teams, the Pittsburgh Steelers and Cleveland Browns have out-penalized the competition to set records for the number and amount of fines their players have racked up since 2002. Unsportsmanlike Conduct remains the #1 fine levied against players, though Roughing the Passer (459 fines levied) will likely catch up in the next season or two.

Raw Data Source: Spotrac

TLDR: 2023 is going to be a blockbuster revenue year for the Professional Athletes Foundation and the NFL Foundation, the charities that are on the receiving end of all NFL player fines collected. The good news for NFL players is that they get to max out their charitable tax deduction this year.

Note: I found and corrected a few errors in the Spotrac NFL player fine database, so it is highly likely that a few more escaped me. It is also likely that I introduced my own errors.

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I was talking to a friend of mine and we got into the discussion of the importance of O-Lines. I'm of the opinion that an amazing top-5 O-Line props up nearly any QB enough to be a great QB. He's of the opinion an amazing top-5 QB helps inflate O-Line stats.

Who is right - or is it a little of both?

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I went through all 32 teams and I could only confidently pick 6 teams. I also thought about a 5 year outlook and could still only come up with 11 teams. What are the teams that you guys feel confident will have the same starting QB in 2033 as they did in 2023?

My teams were

Bills Bengals Eagles Chargers Texans Jaguars Chiefs

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This has been discussed before, but with the recent news regarding Belicheck being possibly fired (which blows my mind) and Josh McDaniels getting fired (again), it bears repeating.

Bill Belicheck - he's 87-97 after Tom Brady left.

Charlie Weis - he went 35-27 as the head coach of Notre Dame and 6-22 at Kansas in college after leaving NE. His one year as Florida's offensive coordinator in 2010 his offense was 102nd.

Josh McDaniels - He went 11-17 as head coach of the Broncos, and 20-33 as head coach of the Raiders after he left NE.

Bill O'Brien - He went 15-9 as Penn State's head coach, then 52-48 as Houston Texans' head coach after leaving NE. He did make it the college national championship game with Alabama in 2021 but lost to Georgia.

Romeo Crennel - yes, he's on the defensive side. However, he went 24-40 as Cleveland's head coach after leaving New England, then went 4-15 as Kansas City's head coach and 4-8 as Houston Texans' head coach.

Eric Mangini - yes, another defensive guy. However, he went 23-25 as the Jets' head coach after leaving New England and then 10-22 as the Brown's head coach.

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We're on the backend of the season, /r/NFL! We have another game in Germany this week and it looks like it'll be a bargain bin game compared to last week's. The byes are fours teams this week, meaning two less games to watch. I had a great Week 9, going 12-2 and bringing me to 91-45 on the season. How did everyone else do? We only have two division games this week with four inter-conference and eight cross-conference games lined up. Let's get to it!


Winner Loser Comments
Bears over Panthers We're starting the week off on an absolute clunker. Young, the running game, receiving corps and O-line have all been limited or inconsistent for Carolina. Whether it's Bagent or Fields, the Bears can go after the Panthers defense well through the rushing attack and a motivated Moore in the passing game.
Colts over Patriots Minshew is taking hits in the passing game, but he's been helped out by Taylor and Moss running every week while the defense gets better. Jones has been more competent with more diverse weapons and the running game is improving, but he's still missing throws and making a few key mistakes.
Bengals over Texans Stroud is red-hot as a former Ohio State QB. Burrow is also sizzling as a former Ohio State QB. Stroud and the offense hasn't been the same on the road and Cincy has a tough pass defense with its strong CBs and bookend pressure. Burrow picks apart Houston's pass defense inside out.
Saints over Vikings This will be a close one; coinflip. The Saints' offense is finally starting to gel, with some hiccups last week, but they got some big plays from Taysom as well as five turnovers from Bagent to get the win. Dobbs brings the support the Vikings need after losing Cousins, but I think the NOLA defense pressures him enough to make winning this matchup just out of reach.
Steelers over Packers Steelers' defense will be primed to jump on a limited Packers offense with Love still fighting through it. Watt will be ready to tear into Green Bay's O-line and Pittsburgh's run blocking should keep both Harris and Warren hot. Pickett won't need QB heroics here.
Buccaneers over Titans Another coinflip game. If Levis can play like he did against Atlanta, the Titans have a good shot in this one. But this Bucs defense has been legit for most of the season. Baker also has the receivers to give the Titans' corners trouble.
49ers over Jaguars Given that San Fran has to go cross-country on this one, I'm calling this my "upset". Purdy should be sharper from the bye with better weapons around him. Look for the Niners' pass rush to rev up with more help and do enough for Purdy to outduel Lawrence on the road.
Ravens over Browns Probably a low-scoring divisional matchup given these two teams' great defenses. Garrett and crew tend to play much better defense at home; not the case this week. Baltimore brings a nasty pass rush and secondary. Watson still isn't playing well and he'll make too many mistakes under pressure.
Cardinals over Falcons Bird battle. Murray should be back this week. Heinicke and the Falcons offense continues to lose any rushing or passing identity. If Murray plays, the Falcons' defense has proved the past two weeks it doesn't respond well to QB curveballs, either with athleticism or a big arm.
Lions over Chargers The Lions will have their offense at full strength after a bye around Goff and St. Brown. The defense will chase Herbert as L.A. gets too one-dimensional with limited weapons. The Chargers' pass rush will be held in check while St. Brown goes off to lead a big scoring charge.
Cowboys over Giants The Giants have lost Jones and Taylor, leaving them with DeVito and Barkley. That doesn't feel good against Dak and a defense that beat them up 40-0 in the first meeting in Week 1. Dallas will take out its disappointment at Philly by ripping into another, much weaker NFC East rival.
Seahawks over Commanders Commanders go from Washington D.C. to Washington state, hoping to keep playing well on the road with Howell. Seattle is coming back from getting blasted in Baltimore and won't mind a get-well game. Smith plays much better, while Howell gets rattled a few too many times.
Raiders over Jets Jets are coming off a short week to play another AFC West opponent. The Raiders are playing more inspired defense with a tough running game at home under interim coach Pierce, having just ripped into a much worse New York team. The Raiders can hang in there with a run-heavy, physical approach.
Bills over Broncos Ungulate battle. Wilson is playing well and at 3-5, the Broncos were inspired enough to think their offense can put them back in the playoff picture. Denver does have confidence with the defense playing well and just having dusted K.C. before the bye. But Buffalo is ready to bump off a lesser team at home after losing to New England and Cincy.

Byes: Chiefs, Rams, Dolphins, Eagles


Those are my predictions, let's hear yours. Keep it civil and fun. Best of luck!

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