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The original was posted on /r/starcraft by /u/CatholicusArtifex on 2024-04-22 13:06:33.

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The original was posted on /r/starcraft by /u/Cal-omnie on 2024-04-21 17:54:19.


Hey guys,

I've noticed a lot things were said about the 2024 S2 map pool and in particular the new map introduced there. Out of curiosity and to hopefully make this whole discussion more grounded in reality, I've spent this afternoon on liquipedia getting the match information out of every map and aggregating those results per race/matchup in order to get to the bottom of which race gets to whine about balance.

Disclaimer

The new maps have been around for only a few weeks, and there has not been that many matches played on them, as a results, those stats should be taken with a grain of salt and be expected to vary over time.

Methodology

You can get statistics for every map on liquipedia (example: site delta), I've just got those statistics for the union of the maps present in the last two seasons, and then created sub-groups for season 1, 2, and the new maps. In the end it looks something like this:

s1_maps = ('Alcyone', 'Equilibrium', 'Goldenaura', 'Hard Lead', 'Hecate', 'Oceanborn', 'Radhuset', 'Site Delta', 'Solaris')

s2_maps = ('Alcyone', 'Amphion', 'Crimson Court', 'Dynasty', 'Ghost River', 'Goldenaura', 'Oceanborn', 'Post Youth', 'Site Delta')

new_maps = ('Amphion', 'Crimson Court', 'Dynasty', 'Ghost River', 'Post Youth')

To get the race winrates, I simply added the two matchup of each race and computed the winrate over that (e.g. for Terran I took the TvZ and TvP results and merged them).

Per season results

Looking at those results, there is a clear winner and a clear loser. Zergs lost 1.2 point between S1 and S2 and a whooping 10.5 points between the old map pool and the new maps.

Terran on the other hand gained 1.2 point between S1 and S2 and 6.1 point between the old map pool and the new maps

Protoss is a bit weirder, they do slightly worse between S1 and S2, but the new map seems to have favoured them a bit as well.

Per map results

These might be helpful if you don't really know what to veto, though you shouild probably be using your own results for that.

Matchup results per map

A more complete look of the results, you can just reverse those stats to get the opposing matchup winrate (e.g. ZvT on Amphion Z has 55% winrate, T has 45%).

That's all folks, here's the code that gave me these results, feel free to play around with it if you fancy:

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The original was posted on /r/starcraft by /u/LeagueSucksLol on 2024-04-19 07:57:49.


If you were a terran infantry unit (marine/marauder/etc.), what do you think would be the worst way to die in-game? I would probably guess anything heat-related such as Hellion/Colossus. Maybe even Baneling since being dissovled in acid seems very painful.

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The original was posted on /r/starcraft by /u/DoctorHousesCane on 2024-04-19 06:48:40.


Yoinked it from the good folks at TL.net

big if true

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The original was posted on /r/starcraft by /u/Gamer857 on 2024-04-18 19:53:46.


The OG guys from the early days of sc2 still here even after military service.

DRG, Creator, ByuN, GuMiho and others.

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The original was posted on /r/starcraft by /u/gDAnother on 2024-04-18 14:07:41.


Reynor win his group to qualify, 2-0 vs Byun in the final qualifier match.

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