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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

A friendly reminder that isps do NOT care about you or your digital rights. Always best to buy directly from the OEM rather than from the telecommunications (unless you can't afford it). Do proper research before buying a phone!

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 8 months ago (4 children)

This is why you never, ever, buy a phone from a carrier

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The concept was always bizarre to me. It's like getting a PC as part of your broadband contract. Speaking of, it would make more sense to get a phone as part of your broadband contract, my phone is 95% an internet device. That it happens to have a SIM card in it is a minor feature.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

my phone is 95% an internet device. That it happens to have a SIM card in it is a minor feature.

I seriously wonder how long carriers will keep handing out phone numbers to data-only devices. It has to be a serious cost for them to provision out so many numbers plus it only contributes to the phone number exhaustion problem that happens in many areas codes. For example my work has about 1000 training iPads we've shipped out, all with phone numbers local to our main office, purely for the purposes of connecting to mobile data. Any messaging/phone apps the Apple might proload are removed via the MDM so they really never use the phone number for anything. And I imagine the company I work for is not a minority in doing something like that given how cheap iPads are to deploy at scale for anything that just needs to run a web browser and nothing else

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is carrier specific. My carrier will happily sell you a data-only SIM or eSIM, at a discount even.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I'm curious, do they have phone numbers tied to them?

Edit: a quick internet search confirms my suspicion, they do have a number assigned but are unable to make/receive calls or texts

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

If they have, it's well hidden. Nowhere on the packaging or Sim tooling does any number appear (I have one for my iPad).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

My data SIM has a phone number but Android can't see it, I have to use USSD code to get my number

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Especially US carriers. Elsewhere, it varies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Usually not even that bad, I buy a 1-2y old unlocked phone on fleabay for <= ~$400 when it's time for an upgrade and I'm set for 3y or so

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Last couple of phones I've bought have been pixel a-series, new. Only reason I've felt I had to upgrade what the phone no longer getting security updates.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

and I'm set for 3y or so

Whoa, mine hold around 7 years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I usually move on once it's time for a battery replacement - I can get ~$100-150 back by selling the old phone and I get a newer camera out of the upgrade at the same time.

It works out to be something like $8-10/mo spent in the end (or ~$12/mo if I keep the old phone for some reason) so it's not terribly expensive in the end.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

This and bootkits.