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Telegram is far far behind Signal. In terms of privacy, it's not owned by a big Corp but Signal isn't either, and from a technical perspective, Telegram has pretty no E2EE, while almost everything in Signal is E2E encrypted.
The issue with the messages being delivered late only happens when there are notifications issues too. Check your settings. Also, it seems that when an app isn't opened for a while, it looses the notifications. I have that issue with element.
for what? turn off notifications? thats pretty useless.
It's happened quite regularly for me, and I mainly use the desktop version.
When I enabled it for SMS as well I missed several important texts for a day or so.
So all in all, I have not really been that impressed with it.
I've been using Signal (the apk downloaded from the site, not the play store one) for a long time, and I've never faced a delay when sending or receiving messages until the last few days. My dad started complaining that he hasn't received any of my texts, and he is not able to send images to me either.
In this case, he just had to update the app.
But people face this issue when their phone itself decide to doze off Signal. If you are facing the issue, you might as well disablle battery optimizations, install APK directly (or build one yourself), or change your ROM.
What I am reading here is that it's definitely not the app to get my non tech friends to install.
Notifications delay is a common issue for every messaging app relying on google's push notifications, because based on the android specs, manufacturers are allowed to aggressively "battery-optimize" apps relying on FCM for push notifications. WhatsApp is not relying on them for example, and in a lot of cases OEMs specifically whitelist it from aggressive battery optimization. I've had this issues with friends that started to use Signal, Telegram, Wire and even Slack and DiScord. They were not receiving messages until I told them how to exclude the apps from aggressive battery optimization. Unfortunately there isn't a common standard way to do that, but every OEM has its own place in the settings to check (and sometimes it's more than one). You can refer to https://dontkillmyapp.com/ or to Slack's help page about this issue, which is quite well explained
That explains a lot of things. I don't receive notifications in apps I rarely use, but What'sApp always worked (while other widespread apps didn't like Discord or Slack). The fact that it's in an allow-list for this kind of stuff explains it. Fuck What'sApp!
For me, installing it on the play store worked fine for all of my family and friends.
Wasn't OpenWhisper Systems, the maintainer of Signal, acquired by Twitter?
According to the timeline on Wikipedia :
The foundation is still here and relies on donations, to pay for development and hosting. So what your saying is near the truth (and I wasn't aware of that actually) but today Signal is a fully independent non-profit.
Thanks, would that explain the change from TextSecure and RedPhone to their merger into Signal?
You can check out the Timeline on Wikipedia, they did change the name to Signal after merging RedPhone and TextSecure.