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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (25 children)

That's the very essence of the accusations against him. In an email to a student body mailing list, he defended a former colleague against allegations of child abuse. It is not such a clear cut case, as the "child" in questions seems to have been a 17 year old girl, and Stallman basically said it can't be considered child abuse if the child was credibly lying about her age and willingly engaged in it.

I personally think it still leaves an incredibly bad impression on the person (who at the time was an middle aged man) to exploit a young woman like that, irregardless if the interaction appeared to be legal and entirely voluntarily. Especially if the context is transactional sex as in this case and not some sort of lolita type of romantic inflatulation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (17 children)

That’s the very essence of the accusations against him.

I'm getting tired of this, exactly this is the problem. It's always accusations, not a clear-cut case. We can talk when accusations turn into facts.

And I mean, yes if the girl lied about her age I don't know how you expect the other person to know? Obviously transactional sex is still unethical, but calling it willing child abuse is pretty strong if the abused lied about her age, and was nearly an adult.

Edit: being nearly and adult matters, because it may make it much harder to visually tell the person's age

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 years ago (6 children)

It’s always accusations, not a clear-cut case.

With Stallman, pretending it's not clear cut is ridiculous.

Some receipts.

Probably the most damning one:

  • In a 2007 interview, he said:

I don’t have any experience working with women in programming projects; I don’t think that any volunteered to work on Emacs or GCC.

A number of women have contributed to GCC, including:

  • Janis Johnson maintains the test suite and has been a contributor since 2001
  • Sandra Loosemore is the lead author of the GNU Library Reference Manual;[3] RMS is listed as her co-author.
  • Dorit Nuzman made major contributions to loop scheduling and vectorization.
  • Carolyn Tice is also mentioned as a contributor.
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 years ago

With Stallman, pretending it’s not clear cut is ridiculous.

The "not a clear-cut case" referred to Minsky and not Stallman. What are you claiming that Stallman is obviously guilty of? Because the discussion was on his alleged endorsement of child abuse and sexual assault and you linked to articles which make accusations based on assumptions and further dilute it with describing how disgusting and asocial he is. Your highlighted point in no way supports the claim of him endorsing such behaviors and comes from an interview, in which Stallman also states that:

I know most of the maintainers only through email, which means that I don’t know whether they are male or female unless their names show me. I just looked at the list: one maintainer is probably female, and a few others have names that might be male or female.

Yes, saying that no women contributed to GCC is false and wrong but it's not a reason to exclude him from the movement or a justification for the CancelStallman campaign.

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