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“Y'all Cannot Actually Be This Stupid”: Ethel Cain Defends Chappell Roan's Election Stance (www.them.us)
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[–] [email protected] 61 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Rewriting the headling: "Most Americans Don't Understand Nuance."

Article body, summarized: "People are too stupid to understand that you can disagree with a candidate's stance but still recognize that they're a better choice than the fascist, sexist, predatory, federally indicted criminal."

News at 11.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yep. It's like how you say "I'm voting for Harris but I don't like her track record of issues important to me, but she's not Trump and that's what matters." and people instantly harass you into being okay with fracking and murder.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I feel like a lot of this is Russian bots stirring shit up, Israel is the perfect thing to get people not to vote at all, which is exactly what they want, that's basically a vote for trump but people are either too privileged or stupid to realize it

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hey I'm voting for Harris, I just think its important to call out bad takes from anyone, including those who I vote for. I do it for my local and my federal offices. I email my republican congress members (they don't respond beyond the default robot reply) and I complain to my democratic senators.

[–] corsicanguppy 1 points 5 months ago

Hey I’m voting for Harris, I just think its important to call out bad takes from anyone

Oh god; how many fucking times this has been explained.

  1. publically disparage imperfect non-conservative leadership candidate
  2. fewer people vote for that person because of the sea of over-advertised issues - which exist on every candidate but are associated with just the one
  3. fewer people voting - low voter turnout - has been shown many times to inordinately favour conservative candidates because of their strong loyalty uber-alles schtick
  4. conservative candidate wins
  5. 90% of people are worse off, and are sad, and all from 'calling out bad takes from anyone'.

Preserve the ability to protest. Then protest afterward if we still have the right.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Anything I don't like is foreign interference, I'm okay with voting for a candidate that endorses genocide, anyone that doesn't share my views is stupid

Hell yeah brother. I'm also proud to be a part of the freest country in the universe. 👏More👏trans👏drone👏pilots👏

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Genocide or fascism+genocide, pick one, because those are your two choices at the moment, and not picking counts as a vote for fascism+genocide

Grow up

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I live in one of the reddest states in the country, my vote literally doesn't matter. Thanks democracy

[–] corsicanguppy 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

freest country in the universe

Aaron Sorkin wrote it best:

Will McAvoy : [Turns to Lewis] And with a straight face, you're gonna tell students that America is so star-spangled awesome that we're the only ones in the world who have freedom? Canada has freedom. Japan has freedom. The UK. France. Italy. Germany. Spain. Australia... Belgium! has freedom... 207 sovereign states in the world, like 180 of 'em have freedom.

Also Jeff Daniels in arguably his best scene and/or best role. What a great show.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Most Americans Don't Understand Nuance."

Most people, regardless of nationality, don't understand nuance. That's why Winston Churchill once said that the biggest argument against democracy is talking to an average person for five minutes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

God damnit, I knew someone would do this. Case in point this is specifically about the American elections, therefore the nuanced implication refers to that.

Yes, this can be extended. But you're now being inclusive of the rest of the world's shortcomings for what? The article is about Chappell Roan and the morons bitching about her not endorsing Kamala. Not voters in the UK.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Typical American think their experience is the only universal truth and their group only matters in any discussion.

American exceptionalism never fails; as if Americans are the only ones getting the same problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I didn't argue against that. Nor was it the topic of the article. But go on...

[–] corsicanguppy 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I didn’t argue against that.

Yours is a sentence that takes on 5 different meanings based on which word is stressed when spoken.

Also, you missed the nuance in what TD wrote. And that's high comedy this early in my morning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Yet they deleted the parallel comment deriding me for being "Murikan," which seems to obviate any dual meaning. Anyway, enjoy the rest of your day.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Another correction of the headline:

“Y'all Cannot Actually Be This Stupid”: an argument on how people are, in fact, this stupid.