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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gravity is not the word gravity though! The idea of gravity is not the same thing as the force itself. The word "socialism" is not the material transition of society.

Seriously please take this issue under consideration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reification_(fallacy)

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's literally my point, the words are just labels for underlying concepts. I didn't say the word socialism is equivalent to the material transition of society. What I said is that it best captures our current understanding of this concept.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And I'm arguing that concepts have no independent reality apart from words.

The word is not the concept. But the concept is also jot the material reality. You're reifying concepts and treating them as if they have some sort of transhistorical reality.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

I completely agree that the word is not the concept, that's literally what I've been saying in the past few comments in several different ways.

I'm not reifying concepts and treating them as if they have some sort of transhistorical reality. I'm saying that at any point in time we have a particular understanding of the concepts which builds on prior ideas.

I feel like we're just talking past each other at this point, and we're clearly not getting anywhere. I propose we stop here. Nothing new has been said for a while.