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[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Being a centrist is not Harris' problem. Harris' problem was being non-white and a woman in a nation of fickle uninformed voters.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Sure, that didn't help, but she also was a "more of the same" candidate (she's rhe current VP!)

As much as I wanted her to win, she was always a stupid choice in at a time where voters can essentially all agree on one thing: they want change.

Status quo politics is dead, the dems just haven't realized it yet. As braindead as Trump and a most of his policies are, people like that he doesn't give a shit about disrupting things to achieve his goals.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You're right, I agree with you and I think his goals are both damaging and stupid... but at the end of the day his strategy is winning and we will obviously have to adapt to beat it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

we will obviously have to adapt

Democrats would rather lose and blame the left.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

We ran a centrist in 2020 and it worked.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Biden wasn't really a centrist in the same way Harris was. Biden ran on a progressive-ish platform, and mostly backed it up with action. He sure as hell didn't run on fracking and locking up immigrants like Harris is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

... What the fuck are you talking about

The difference is she is a woman. Denying it won't change a fucking thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh honey. Its not that. Some of it is that... But 20 million votes are missing from the left; its not because shes a woman that they didnt vote.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

The Dems should definitely move more central on social issues, as the US election system has a huge built in rural bias.

Then focus on more broad-reaching progressive economic topics. Less focus on legislation targeting specific marginalized groups and more on policies which would impact everyone directly. As a potential example, Universal Basic Income ("Freedom Bonus" or whatever it was called) was one such policy which was floated a couple elections ago.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

The problem is having a contested convention would have been just as bad. We all know what happened with McGovern in '72. The only chance was immediately unifying behind someone else and Harris was the only one people could agree on.

The main stupid decision was Biden not sticking to his word and choosing to run again despite his obvious unpopularity and age.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Okay that's just copium, but it's jot because she was a centrist either. Harris wasn't even trying to campaign competently or listen to her constituency; ultimately that's what did her in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Harris wasn’t even trying to campaign competently or listen to her constituency

Sounds exactly like a centrist to me.