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[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So who is at the top of the pyramid?

[–] Hacksaw 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

a SMALL group of rich men oppressing everyone else.

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suite I take it?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

it’s pyramid shaped

If it is a pyramid shape, even among the small group of rich men, there's someone calling the shots. Otherwise it wouldn't be a pyramid shape. Do you value clarifying your ideas more than you do insulting others?

[–] Hacksaw 1 points 3 months ago

Alright, I'll ASSUME that you're not here to "men bad" this conversation, and engage with you in case you want to discuss in good faith, even though my instincts are telling me you're just trolling to enrage.

There isn't anyone calling the shots, that's not how human social hierarchies function. It's a small number of rich people, generally white, mostly men. They mostly own companies for most of their net worth. Due to their power and wealth they are generally well aligned in terms of what they support.

None of them are going to support socialist ideas because they know it's mostly them paying for it and others benefiting. None of these people want to empower workers since doing so will cost their companies money. None of them want to have a strong investigative media because they're the ones doing most of the things that should be investigated. These things, and more, are things they almost universally agree on because they share common privilege.

They also vary amongst themselves in other things. Some like the idea of oppressive Christofascism because if they see themselves as enforcing god's law then they won't be damned for eternity. These are the business leaders behind things like project 2025. Some like the idea that the government should do nothing to help anyone or enforce any regulation because everyone should be free to do as they please with their "personal" property. These are the (tech)libertarians that feel like they accomplished everything on their own and were burdened by regulations and that paying for poor people is a waste of money because they're worthless humans who should just die in poverty or start working harder.

There is a whole array of STUPID flavours of billionaires at the top, and they will each push for their views as often as they can. They RARELY fight eachother because they share most goals. Even when they don't support eachother's goals they will only oppose eachother if they have contradictory beliefs and if the laws one group pushes for actively hinders another group, which is generally rare. And ~~best~~ worst of all, their obscene wealth and ownership of most forms of media means that they have TREMENDOUS ability to effect the changes they want to see in the world.

They're at the top of the pyramid, but they don't often behave as a cabal except in rare or unusual circumstances (like project 2025) when their sheer power and wealth isn't enough on its own to effect the changes they want to see. No one is calling the shots above them, even for those lower down, except if you count trading favours as calling the shots.