Collapse

413 readers

37 users here now

This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

RULES

1 - Remember the human

2 - Link posts should come from a reputable source

3 - All opinions are allowed but discussion must be in good faith.

4 - No low effort, high volume and low relevance posts.

Related lemmys:

founded 8 months ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

‘We need dramatic social and technological changes’: is societal collapse inevitable? (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

17 comments fedilink hide all child comments

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] humanspiral 1 points 1 month ago

Freedom/social dividends, UBI, is only possible social/change solution. It is more important than democracy, and only path to disempowering rulership. war, geopolitical BS, and zionist/oligarchist parties pretending to be worker parties that first exterminate immigrants to the cheering natives who are not immigrants, before they genocide the next group.

Worker centric politics is not the answer, and automation/AI threatens the same future as horses after automobile. Oligarchs sowing divisiveness is path to eventually genociding us all. UBI resets politics to always strive to provide better value than equal cash to all citizens/residents. People get fucking angry at expensive F35s, not just because of low flight up times. Oligarchy or Israel first rulership is fine with pillaging the country, then moving somewhere else when collapse or civil war starts.

Without UBI, only harsher slavery and oppression results from increased desperation to survive. With UBI, people are inherently empowered to point of being able to refuse oppression. If wealth can be generated through automation or immigrants, all citizens get their share, and are empowered to find meaning/productive use of their time.