This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.
Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.
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We are living through dramatic social and technological change already
True, but every generation since the Industrial Revolution has as well. This is nothing compared to what’s coming.
What’s coming?
Massive climate change
and ai
No it's not inevitable.
I actually have a pretty good plan for fixing rhe entire planet. It's just when I say something like that it's obviously perceived as arrogant (and I don't argue it isn't) and then the following conversation becomes some dick measuring contest instead of someone actually wanting to help me.
It's not inevitable, like driving into a tree isn't inevitable, but only if the drivers at least attempt to drive.
Ok, let's hear it then, but it better not involve blockchains.
So I can have more mocking, more insults and have to start fighting for my ideas on Lemmy rn when I'm too hungry to even cook and am just laying here
I'll check back tomorrow and make some longer comment
But no, no blockchains.
I mean it's a useful tech Finnish govt actually used it to give refugees faster access to services as it is safe enough to use as temp id before the get permanent official id.
There are 8.1 billion drivers at the wheel and most of them will fight you tooth and nail for any course change that will even mildly inconvenience them.
That's sort of exactly the issue that need solving.
But if you truly understand what is being said and aren't taking anything personally, or making it a dick measuring contest of some sort, then agreement isn't just possible, it's probable.
Ie actual empathy without ego.
If only there were medications to help us experience empathy.
Oh wait
Freedom/social dividends, UBI, is only possible social/change solution. It is more important than democracy, and only path to disempowering rulership. war, geopolitical BS, and zionist/oligarchist parties pretending to be worker parties that first exterminate immigrants to the cheering natives who are not immigrants, before they genocide the next group.
Worker centric politics is not the answer, and automation/AI threatens the same future as horses after automobile. Oligarchs sowing divisiveness is path to eventually genociding us all. UBI resets politics to always strive to provide better value than equal cash to all citizens/residents. People get fucking angry at expensive F35s, not just because of low flight up times. Oligarchy or Israel first rulership is fine with pillaging the country, then moving somewhere else when collapse or civil war starts.
Without UBI, only harsher slavery and oppression results from increased desperation to survive. With UBI, people are inherently empowered to point of being able to refuse oppression. If wealth can be generated through automation or immigrants, all citizens get their share, and are empowered to find meaning/productive use of their time.
Wouldn’t dramatic changes be perceived as a collapse by many? Nothing ever ends, we are still using Roman roads and bureaucracy structures.
The difference between the two is largely semantics IMO. Sure, a private jet company CEO might perceive it as the end of the world when their business becomes unfeasible, no matter if that's because of a general societal collapse or due to the industry getting regulated into oblivion.
The same goes for humanity as a whole scaling back our use of energy and resources. Either willingly or not, it will happen, and not everyone will be as willing.