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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When people thought the Earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the Earth was spherical, they were wrong. But if you think that thinking the Earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the Earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together.

The authoritarian left is bad
The authoritarian right is bad
But if you think that the two are equally bad, then you're wronger than wrong

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And if you think that makes either defendable you’ve lost the plot.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Good thing I didn't say that.
Too bad you missed when I called both "bad"

Two things can both be indefensible, and yet still one is preferable. Although you lead with "and", you seem to be suggesting that this isn't the case, which is a wild position that doesn't hold up to even that barest of scrutiny.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Both are bad, neither is preferable. The world is not binary, you have other options.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Guess what?

You can rank a list of things by preference, even if it contains more than 2 items and multiple items are bad.

Let me give you an example:

  1. Give an innocent child a candy
  2. Run over an innocent child's foot
  3. Blow up an innocent child with C4

2 of those options are bad and indefensible, but between the bad options, one is certainly worse.

Come back to me when you have an argument that stands up to a light breeze, your "all bad things are equally bad" routine is the kind of nonsense that allows monsters to come into power.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Right so you go with 1.

You don’t go with left fash/2 or right fash/3, those are out of the question.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

That's such a cool story.

Too bad this isn't a discussion about that option. We're discussing the difference between option 2 and option 3, or the lack thereof. You can talk about things you don't want to choose.

Dude, wtf man. This isn't complicated, I don't know why you're having such a hard time of it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

And we’re discussing how some “options” are not options at all, they fall under the bad label and the degree of difference is irrelevant.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Maybe "options" was a bad choice of word.

These are things we're talking about and just because we're talking about a thing doesn't mean we are bound to choose it if given them as a choice.

I can say that I hate one thing more than another thing without ever being forced to choose either of them.
Just like in my example I'm not forced to run over a child's foot just because I spoke about it.

And besides sometimes you ARE forced to choose between a list of bad options. Especially in politics. There is certainly a "least bad" option, and treating everything bad as equal is, like I said before, how monsters get power.

I refuse to believe that these are the responses of someone having a good faith discussion. You're clearly trolling, but idky because you're not being funny or clever. You're just making tangential nonsense arguments for no discernable reason.