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Ooh I know that one! They are in a social situation that involves food and the vegan politely declines an animal product. Then they make an anti vegan joke and the vegan politely disagrees. Have been there many times.
Really? Because I have seen quite a few times vegan claiming that eating meat is a "murder" when people were trying to enjoy their steaks.
Here on Lemmy one idiot even claimed that cutting sheep wool or something similar is a sexual assault
I've seen quite a few times black people have abused welfare programs. Usually they're posted under conservative accounts, and I get flamed in the comments for pointing out that these are videos posted by someone with an agenda who wants their audience to think certain things about certain groups of people without providing actual data on the subject
Do you think maybe some of the videos of vegans being douchebags that you've seen have been posted by someone with an agenda who wants their audience to think certain things about certain groups of people without providing actual data on the subject?
You know mate you get people with extreme opinions in all walks of life.
No doubt about it, but I am yet to see someone who eats meat calling for vegans to be forcibly fed meat - and I have seen vegans saying that eating meat should be forbidden.
Sure, but vegans have a moral reason for you to stop eating meat.
Nope.
Nope?
Nope.
Can you elaborate? I’m not sure what you mean by “nope”.
What caused you trouble?
Bullshit.
A vegan will have a larger sample size of non-vegans interacting with them than vice versa, simply because a small percentage of people is vegan. So their experience of said interactions is much less anecdotal.
Here's a video on wool, but content warning, it is graphic despite blurring.
spoiler
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8jNev6KVFnM&pp=ygUNdmVnYW5pc20gd29vbA%3D%3DIs wool cutting a sexual assault according to you?
Did you watch the video?
Is wool cutting a sexual assault according to you?
I don't know what it's like to cut wool, but no, wool cutting in and of itself doesn't seem like a sexual act to me. Though it does share the parallel of violating the sheep's bodily autonomy.
Have you seen how wool is actually collected? It's quite violent.
Yes, in a shearing shed and not on youtube.
It is not violent when done correctly, and the best shearers in the industry who can smoothly and quickly sheer a sheep without injury are highly sought after.
Are these best shearers not still commoditizing the products of the body of another thinking being?
How do we know your claims of non-violent sheering are true?
Where is the sheep in this shed, now?
Do they still have their horns?
Do they still have their tail?
How much of the industry do these sought-after shearers even represent?
https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/why-wool-not-vegan>>>
What does that have to do with the question of whether or not the process of shearing is violent?
How do you know PETAs claims are true? ("As reported by PETA, one eyewitness to the process said")
I've been an eyewitness to the process, and I'm not idealogically biased the way PETA extremists are known to be.
What? This sentence just doesn't make sense. The sheep don't live in the shed.
The females of the breeds I have observed don't have horns, and their tails are docked to prevent excrutiatingly painful death by flystrike.
The alternative to wool production in Australia is cotton, which is even more environmentally destructive than sheep are, mostly due to the sheer amount of water required for cotton production. People need clothes so these industries aren't going away.
Shearers have an interest in not causing unecessary harm to sheep, because it is counter productive. That's my experience.
The rest of your argument is moralising which I am uninterested in.
Are you one of the idiots claiming sheep are sexually attacked during wool cutting?
I could be wrong, but it sounds to me like you're conflating things. Sheep, in their entire life cycles, are harmed and violated in a variety of ways. Considering they are forcibly bred, that aspect of their exploitation is arguably sexual assault.
Yes, yes, and what is your doctor saying about that?