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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Apple TV was the best media thing I’ve bought in over a decade. No ads ever, incredibly responsive (league of its own compared to stuff like Roku), and is able to stream from my Jellyfin server. Beautiful interface, fast, clean, simple controller with a battery life that is easily over a year. Just a really good product. Roku can suck by nuts. Literal full page ads in a product that advertises that it has zero of them. Even the most expensive version. Fuck Roku.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Same here. One is the best made TV boxes period.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I agree. I switched from Roku to apple tv recently (and I don't really have apple devices), and it was worth it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've found the shield pro is better, especially for customizability.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn’t that Android? Sorry, not touching Android unless it’s something like Calyx or Graphene or lineage. I’ll just build myself a pc to connect to my TV if I wanted to go anywhere near that.

Have you used an Apple TV or are you just claiming that the shield is better because you like customizing things more?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've used both, still prefer the shield. Hardware-wise they're about the same insofar as I never had trouble with any lag at any point on either. This is what sets both of them apart from all other streaming devices. Chromecast, roku, fire sticks, they've all had trouble with some of the higher bit rate media on my jellyfin server. Apple TV and shield did not.

I prefer the shield remote.

The main difference comes down to software. Android TV is simply better. I can get the interface exactly how I like it, and run all manner of apps in the background, making the remote more useful among other things. Apple TV doesn't even have access to the jellyfin app, you have to use swiftfin on the app store which has issues. You can sideload apps super easily on the shield. (Though for the jellyfin example, you don't have to. It's on the play store.)

Developer mode is also a great thing to have on the shield. I can now transfer apps and media from my pc super easily, speed up animations to make it feel snappier, (a feature sorely missed on apple TV) or even remote control the shield (which I haven't found a need to do yet so I'm not counting that as a plus).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (4 children)

how does it go for codec support out of Jellyfin? I'm starting to collect and also rip AV1 content, which is fine for computers and phones (and my newer TV does it natively), but trying to find a streambox that wouldn't need to transcode it is proving harder than expected

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Use Infuse as your playback client. It will direct play AV1. However there is no hardware decoding support for it. But the processor is fast enough to do it in software for 24fps 4K. But not 60fps.

Current gen iPhone chips do AV1 hardware decoding. And the AppleTV uses the same processor, just a few generations behind. The next AppleTV hardware refresh may add AV1 hardware support. But that’s just a guess.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Perfectly. I’ve never encountered a codec my Apple TV couldn’t play smooth as butter. Been watching a lot of AV1 anime lately, never needs to transcode. I use Infuse Player for its Dolby Vision support, because that’s the only format the native Jellyfin app has trouble with, but Infuse is also just a really solid app in general, and for me is the perfect way to consume my Jellyfin server. But the native Jellyfin app is also solid, and there are some other players which would definitely meet your needs (MrMC for example is very good, but not as polished as Infuse).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Have a previous gen 4K, and have not encountered any issues with Jellyfin on streaming. There's a spectacularly annoying bug that you lose your config if the atv is full to capacity - and with kids in the house it means frequent logins are required. The iOS client also seems to lag on features and updates compared to the other clients, but other than that niggle it's been great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You’re talking about Streamyfin right? Yeah I’ve had so many issues with that. I just use infuse, but infuse is terrible for actually sorting and categorizing stuff. And it slows down massively with large libraries. I got to around 850 movies and it suddenly bogged down like crazy. Like, the Apple TV is super responsive still, but the app just has trouble loading each successive movie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 53 minutes ago

Honestly not sure and the kids are firmly ensconced watching at the minute. I tried two or three, but it's the one with the "normal" Jellyfin icon. I tried infuse and another one, but this one was (for me) the best of the three.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Shield pro is the best, end of story

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Are they still making those or are they all 5+ years old (2019 was latest I could find on eBay)?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep, all 5 years old. I don't see a need for another one quite yet when even the newest streaming devices still don't measure up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any issues popping up (especially from the old version of Android)?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

No, it's smoother than even my brand new Google TV chromecast that it replaced. I replaced the default launcher with something easier for my elderly mother to understand because she kept getting confused with other devices. It's snappy, has all the apps I have needed, and was easy to set up. New apps are still developed and updated for it too since it's so popular, and ostensibly the best pre-built streaming device short of manually configuring a mini pc. I don't see software support officially or from the app developers dropping any time soon because of that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the age of the device put me off, it still runs android 11 as well apparently. I wouldnt want to buy one now and then a refresh comes out

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

It's still the best streaming device hands down. There's not even any competition.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

The last model they made was 2019. I highly doubt we'll see a refresh.