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Muslim Groups Who Pushed Against Kamala Harris Respond to Trump's Gaza Plan - Newsweek
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It's true but they still made the choice they made, and that's unforgivable. Fuck em, Trump lovers.
...but you want to blame people whose families were getting genocided for not being happy to vote like you ordered them to.
Your party shat the bed. They knew who they had to appeal to in order to win. But since that's beneath them, they lost.
No, it's not about them doing what we "ordered" them to. It's about them doing what would result in the best outcome for themselves.
You say that to people whose families were just murdered with weapons you provided and intend to continue providing.
You then scream that they're morons for not being as happy as you are about it.
You then wonder why they're not enthusiastic to vote for that to continue.
No.
I'm not screaming, or happy. Stop misrepresenting the situation to try to feel better about your arguments.
And voting isn't about enthusiasm, it's about evaluating the best choice and then choosing it.
Your party assumed that was so and decided to take advantage of the situation.
Look at how that turned out.
What I mean is, if you want an outcome, you should vote for the choice that's most likely to have that outcome. Seems pretty self-explanatory to me
When the "good" outcome has already provided weapons to kill your family and is calling you a moron for being unhappy about it, then judge.
If they want less families to be killed and voted for Trump because of that then yeah they are not making the best choices to stop that. I wouldn't call them morons because obviously they're doing it out of justified emotional distress, though.
Listen, you can dress your replies up in all sorts of rhetorical flairs but you haven't ever provided a valid reason why voting for Trump would be a good idea.
You call them morons because you want them to be happy with a choice between two genocide parties.
You've done nothing but make unfounded assertions to try to fit me into your narrative, and you left as soon as you ran out of things to try. Blocked and reported. Who are you doing this for anyways? You're certainly not convincing me, and any moderately intelligent onlooker would see right through this. Please raise your standards for discussion in the future and avoid doing nothing but randomly attacking the other person.
No shit. No centrist will ever admit that they were wrong. The party alienated Muslim voters and then blamed them for the loss that resulted.
Democrats aren't owed anyone's vote. You have to earn votes. Democrats showed yet again that they would prefer outright fascism to treating voters like people with agency instead of cattle to be prodded into giving their genocide a mandate.
I'm not a centrist. I hope you know I actually agree with your main point, but that you've been too busy making unfounded attacks on me to notice.
Proof that they are unfounded and that I did NOT edit the comment in the way you suggested, by the way.
Wanted you to see since curiously you didn't respond to that thread.
I didn't see your screenshots yet. I'll respond both here and there. I misread. I'm sorry. I was wrong. I'm so used to people calling grieving families morons and gloating about the new levels of suffering they're getting that I read what I expected to see instead of what was actually there.
That said, since you blocked me, how did you read this to reply?
I saw your comment about the edit first and wanted to stay to correct it, but... I'm genuinely happy that you apologized when you saw you were mistaken. Props to you; that's much rarer than it should be online. I apologize as well for being rather aggressive in this thread. I know you only want what's best for the world too.
Didn't you block me?
Twice actually, but you replied before I could do it both times and I saw them in my inbox and returned. The first time I wanted to come back to post the screenshot; the second was your apology, and that changed my mind.
Nope
Me, last message: "I wouldn’t call them morons"
lemmy shows what time you edit your comments.
Knew you were going to try this. Here, have a screenshot showing I said I wouldn't call them morons before I saw your comment.
Forgot to attach
As you can see also, the edit I made after you posted your comment was to add the second paragraph. You're not getting out of this one
In case you question why I happen to have a screenshot:
I'm a data hoarder
I misread. I’m sorry. I was wrong. I’m so used to people calling grieving families morons and gloating about the new levels of suffering they’re getting that I read what I expected to see instead of what was actually there.
Dems don't have the emotional intelligence to understand that most Americans don't know which policies will benefit them, most don't know any policies at all.
They have to put money in people's bank account and take money from the rich if they want to communicate a good economy instead of telling everyone we are the best while their quality of life rapidly erodes.
When some gangsters ask you which arm you want to get cut, you fight them, you don't passively pick one. Coward
And then get killed, which is worse than losing an arm. Where's the fight? You just lost both arms.
False equivalence
Come and fuck me daddy. Sorry your favorite genocider lost. I hope he forget about Gaza and start internal repression. How does your own medecine taste like, asshole? Pretty bitter, huh?
What the fuck are you even saying? This is the kind of response I would expect from a Trump loving fascist supporter. Incoherent and hateful.
That's because you're a brainwashed idiot. It's what happen to people living in a fascist country.