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[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

To those claiming ... that the election was not tampered with

I will agree that there was targeted voter suppression, targeted registration purges, and Russian propaganda. But all of this has been around for many elections. It's wrong that we have to live with this in the US, but it's already been challenged in court, largely unsuccessfully. So we do have to live with it, until it can be fixed by a legislature that actually works for the people.

Even if you could prove voting machine tampering sufficient to change the election, there's still the problem that 77 million voters chose catastrophe. You can't possibly prove that this was off by an order of magnitude. We have to face the reality that there is an excess of bad voters, and a shortage of good candidates.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

Every suppressed vote is as fraudulent as any fake vote.