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Calorie for calorie, no.
Vegetables aren't the totality of my diet. As it stands now, vegan or vegetarian replacements for meat are more expensive than actual meat.
The replacemets yes. But vegetarian food is so much more than just replacing meat. It's cooking completely different meals that taste great without anything meat related. And that absolutely is cheaper that eating meat.
Sorry, I'm not in the market for a new faith.
All you need is some recipes and enough bother to try something new.
There are valid reasons for veganism, but it's folderol to claim it's absolutely cheaper. For one example, sardines are fished sustainably and are very low in mercury, both because they're basically ocean mice. They're also all but impossible to nutritionally outperform for the price.
The research has shown it is 30% cheaper to be on a whole foods plant-based diet.
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-11-11-sustainable-eating-cheaper-and-healthier-oxford-study
That was highly manipulated by people who are completely lost in the sauce on diet culture. No need to make veganism into an eating disorder.
Veganism is a philosophy not a diet and the world’s trusted health institutions have recommended the plant-based diet as healthy.
Also btw Oxford is a reputable source. So you can’t say it’s manipulated.
this is an appeal to authority.. an examination of this study shows it didn't include anyone who gets any kind of subsidized or free food, so it doesn't apply to most of the working poor.
Is that what I said?
Obviously there are exceptions. But in general a vegetarion meal is cheaper in comparison to a meal with beef or something like that. That is true for most meats. So for an "average" meat eater it is cheaper.
Do you know what "absolute" means? If so, why say it?
Who the fuck is downvoting this?
I love me some vegetarian and vegan meals that aren't pretending to be meat. They are their own thing and are fantastic. Heck, making a bean and meat chili with more beans and skipping the meat can be just as good. A lot of Mexican food is or can easily be made vegetarian by just leaving out the mean or switching for beans.
I also love meat! But I do need to eat it less often.
It's weird that I don't even know if the meat or the vegan hardcores are downvoting me. This place realy has develloped a few hardcore communities that don't care for stuff like "logic" or "having a real discussion"
Depends on where you live, but sometimes tofu and tvp can be pretty cheap, plus there's always lentils in a pinch that's possibly some of the cheapest proteins in any given store.
Where do you live for beans and lentils to be that expensive?