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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/fediverselore
 

Auction: https://www.sav.com/auctions/details/7073489/hexbear.net

Not sure what will happen, but seems to be a Fediverselore event for sure

Update: post from hexbear admin on chapo.chat: https://chapo.chat/post/4468531

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (15 children)

Hexbear (edit: ~~is very much alive~~) was very much alive until my cached DNS values dropped out, and now they're dead. Looks like they're fucked.

It looks to me like sav.com is some kind of domain name scammer. They trick people into registering their domains with them by offering low prices, and then some time later once you've come to depend on the domain, proceed to some kind of abusive process like this where they'll let totally separate people (allegedly-real separate people) "bid" on your domain, and force you to pay whatever exceeds the highest bid, if you want to keep control of it. I honestly don't know how it is allowed.

It looks to me like Hexbear got suckered into registering with them, displaying the same savvy critical thinking skills that serve them so well in so many other areas. I don't think the domain expires until a year from now? Am I misunderstanding, or is sav.com just getting the jump on extorting some money from Hexbear? I realize it would be funny to jump in and bid the price up, but be aware that (1) you are giving money to some genuinely godawful people, quite a bit worse than just a bunch of confused aggressive pro-left people, if you win (2) you won't even get your entertainment until a year from now, unless I am misunderstanding something.

Edit: If anyone's curious, Hostinger has extremely cheap domain registrations: https://www.hostinger.com/domain-name-search

They also have an endearingly janky AI assistant that likes to pop up the most hilariously wrong AI descriptions of whatever domain you are registering, for no reason at all. It goes with the rest of their endearingly janky hosting service. I honestly don't mind it, I like them.

Edit: Guys, I am sad to report that they fixed the AI assistant. It now (still for no reason) displays back to you a summary of what you want to use your domain for, but they've fixed the AI involved so that it no longer gives suggestions that are hilariously wrong. It's just accurate and boring. I wish I had saved some of the ones it showed me way back when they first introduced it, because they were wonderful.

[–] Shadow 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

Their domain expired a month ago, this is pretty normal for a registrar to do with expired domains.

Updated Date: 2025-02-11T17:35:29Z
Creation Date: 2021-01-12T00:35:25Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2025-01-12T00:35:22Z
[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Where do you see this? Whois says:

  • Domain: hexbear.net
  • Registered On: 2021-01-12
  • Expires On: 2026-01-12
  • Updated On: 2025-02-11

That's also what sav.com says under domain details "Expiration Date."

Whois also says "client transfer prohibited." Fucking scumbags. Don't give them money.

[–] Shadow 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Just off whois on linux, but I'm not clear why it lists two different sets of dates. I'm guessing querying the root whois vs the registrar, and hexbear is currently in the process of fixing their domain which is why one set is 2026.

~$ whois hexbear.net
   Domain Name: HEXBEAR.NET
   Registry Domain ID: 2584175083_DOMAIN_NET-VRSN
   Registrar WHOIS Server: whois-service.virtualcloud.co
   Registrar URL: http://sav.com/
   Updated Date: 2025-02-11T17:34:08Z
   Creation Date: 2021-01-12T00:35:22Z
   Registry Expiry Date: 2026-01-12T00:35:22Z
>>> Last update of whois database: 2025-02-11T20:42:41Z <<<

*snip*

Domain Name: HEXBEAR.NET
Registry Domain ID: 2584175083_DOMAIN_NET-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois-service.virtualcloud.co
Registrar URL: https://www.sav.com/
Updated Date: 2025-02-11T17:35:29Z
Creation Date: 2021-01-12T00:35:25Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2025-01-12T00:35:22Z
Registrar: SAV.COM, LLC
*snip*
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2025-02-11T17:35:29Z <<<

Unless the +1 year date is the registrar holding it for themselves to auction off, which seems equally likely.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Unless the +1 year date is the registrar holding it for themselves to auction off, which seems equally likely.

Yeah, that's what it is. Whois actually explained it to me, and I didn't bother to read it the first time. I made an edit.

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