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Tip is a recognition of an excellent service, not a right. I would pay without any tip and leave some cash on the table if the service was good (few pounds usually).
Thats europe. In north america, waiters are paid below minimum wage and the tips are supposed to make up the rest.
15% i think is still what the gov expects for wages, so in theory thats for just plain service, forcing us to either hurt the waiter or pay the fee. It's a terrible system. I prefer to not eat out at all than to cut tips, even for poor service i'll leave 10% and won't go back.
Most people who work the service industry don’t claim cash tips, but credit tips are required to be claimed due to the whole being electronic and traceable thing.
If, as a service person, most or all tips are in cash, you just claim whatever brings you to minimum wage for that pay period.
This is obviously heavily dependent upon where you work - some places want you to claim all tips (but you still don’t claim cash usually) others, especially if you make above min wage like most bartenders, don’t care.
However, if you don’t claim those tips you can’t use that as income when taking out loans and applying for housing and whatever else. So it’s fucks people over pretty regularly.
a tipped employee who does that work for years will also see shit for social security later on, as that's based on your reported and taxed earnings.
The vast majority of full service restaurant transactions are by card. Something like 80% of restaurant transactions are by card, and full service restaurants with servers are even higher.
There's not a ton of cash tips at this point, so underreporting cash tips doesn't make as big of a difference as it used to.
Your experience/statistic there is very different from my experience. It definitely depends where you are and how high-end the place is.
Place I work now, most tips are cash, by a substantial margin. Even when paying with card about half of our customers tip cash, and most transactions at this place are cash anyway. Places I worked previously were like a 50/50 split if people paid more often with cash or card, and again about a quarter of people paying card still tip cash.
Maybe because this is a low cost of living area, and everyone knows moving claims cash tips, maybe because it’s all small town stuff, idk.
Well yeah, if you dont declare all your income to dodge taxes, they shouldn't be surprised the income can't be used for credit. But if it's just cash then it's not traceable, you can declare less and keep more in your pocket than an electronic transaction
It also depends how the company declares their outgoing tips and contributions (different in US vs canada of even states/provinces).
most of europe sneers at tipping.
We sneer at it too, but here it's built into people's wages. If i could vote to abolish it i would
yeah, I'm american, same. funny we never really get the opportunity to vote on stuff like this tho. shit's rigged.
The whole system is absolutely rubbish…