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They wouldn't allow you to vote? I don't think so.
There was no impact at all. First of all "allocating super delegates" was a process added to the party charter in the 1980's. The number of DNC members of 2016 that had anything to do with that was zero. 2nd, Clinton had a majority of elected delegates in 2016. So super delegates made no difference. You know that Bernie was a super delegate right?
LOL. I bet you don't know one single sentence of the 2024 Party Platform. I don't any either. Unfortunately voters don't even look at the candidates real published platforms, which they definitely should be doing. Like Harris 82 page PDF of policy positions.
It doesn't even do that much. The candidates introduce themselves to the public. Their main job is to hold the primary votes. If you are someone who volunteers to work for the Democratic Party at the local level, then yes, the DNC is the ultimate boss of your volunteer organization. If you are someone who gets a paycheck from the government, like congressmen and senators, then no the DNC is not your boss. Congressmen do have leaders who can punish them by taking away their committee assignments and making them bored at their jobs. Those leaders are the Democratic Caucus leaders.
They NEVER do that. They can play a small role sometimes. They have been known to occasionally choose a candidate to fund in a congressional primary when there is no Democratic incumbent. And they shouldn't do that IMO. But once a Democratic candidate becomes an elected incumbent the DNC has no leverage whatsoever over them.
The DNC has no leverage whatsoever. It is the leadership of the House and Senates Democratic Caucuses who have both the official job and the real job of party strategy and unity. And they have some real but also limited leverage, since they give out committee assignments. It is not uncommon for the DNC chairman to be a run of the mill rank and file congressmen who takes their orders from the Caucus Leader.
My argument is that "The DNC" had nothing whatsoever to do with the subject of this article. The "House Leaders" cited in this article were clearly the leaders of the Democratic Caucus, not "The DNC" as you were falsely claiming.
How do the Democrats get to those positions?
Look, I get what you're saying. I think we are saying the same damn thing but talking past each other.
The DNC is worthless, doesn't do shit. Nobody cares about it.
Here is my point:
They are SUPPOSED TO BE the leadership. They are not fulfilling that role.
They are the GOVERNING BODY of the party. What rules the party follows, how it operates, is on them in my view. It's a private organization. I am nit picking how they handle their shit and finding it lacking. They've abdicated that responsibility. Possibly by design, so they can have an excuse for their lack of efficacy. Constructed opposition.
You want to put the responsibility directly on the electorate it seems, but we have a democratic republic, not a direct democracy, the parties functionally have the power in a two party FPTP system.
It runs the primaries. That is its main job and that job is indispensible. Ideally, you shouldn't care who is the chairman of the DNC. You should care who are the leaders of the congressional caucuses. Jeffries is terrible.
Only of the private organization known as the Democratic Party.
But look, this is the website of a government organization --> https://www.dems.gov/
Did you see that you had THREE results, not one? Did you see that their were 2 leaders mentioned by name, neither of whom is the DNC chairman?
Then send them your suggestions on what changes you would like to see in the DNC charter regarding how the primary elections are held. The DNC is obligated to stick to the charter, and process of how to hold primary elections can only be changed in between elections, like right now.
So you disagreed with the DNC's decision after 2016 to change the 30 year old rule regarding super delegates, so that super delegates can no longer vote in the first round of the nomination?
This article was obviously referring to the House Democratic Caucus, not the DNC, because it mentioned Jeffries. So you were incorrect when you thought this was referring to DNC leaders. And it is weird that you have never heard about the House and Senate Democratic Caucus organizations. Because both of them are way more powerful and important than "The DNC". If you are going to comment about politics on the internet, it is your responsibility to understand how things actually work and the differences between different organizations. Another good lesson I would like to point out here is that social media can distort reality just as much as the mass media can. You were a victim of this.
What is wrong with you? You are literally being obtuse and refusing to see what I'm saying. Are you trying to convince me of something while simultaneously not even understanding what I'm saying?
If you think you understand what I'm saying, explain it to me.
Are you saying the people in the article are not members of the private organization known as the Democratic party?
The people in the article are not members of the private organization controlled by the DNC and the DNC has no authority over them.
What did you just do? Why did you reword it that way? You are coming across as duplicitous now.
What do you mean, "reword it"? I didn't reword anything.
The article mentions "Members of the Steering and Policy Committee — with House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) in the room "
The "Dems" referred to in the araticle is clearly talking about the House Democratic Caucus (HDC) rather than the DNC. The HDC is a completely separate (and way more powerful) organization than the DNC.
Are you illiterate? I asked you a Yes or No question, and instead of answering it, you reworded it. Scroll up and try again.