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Dems "pissed" at liberal groups MoveOn, Indivisible (www.axios.com)

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A closed-door meeting for House Democrats this week included a gripe-fest directed at liberal grassroots organizations, sources tell Axios.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

How do the Democrats get to those positions?

Look, I get what you're saying. I think we are saying the same damn thing but talking past each other.

The DNC is worthless, doesn't do shit. Nobody cares about it.

Here is my point:

They are SUPPOSED TO BE the leadership. They are not fulfilling that role.

They are the GOVERNING BODY of the party. What rules the party follows, how it operates, is on them in my view. It's a private organization. I am nit picking how they handle their shit and finding it lacking. They've abdicated that responsibility. Possibly by design, so they can have an excuse for their lack of efficacy. Constructed opposition.

You want to put the responsibility directly on the electorate it seems, but we have a democratic republic, not a direct democracy, the parties functionally have the power in a two party FPTP system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The DNC is worthless, doesn’t do shit. Nobody cares about it.

It runs the primaries. That is its main job and that job is indispensible. Ideally, you shouldn't care who is the chairman of the DNC. You should care who are the leaders of the congressional caucuses. Jeffries is terrible.

They are SUPPOSED TO BE the leadership.

Only of the private organization known as the Democratic Party.

But look, this is the website of a government organization --> https://www.dems.gov/

Did you see that you had THREE results, not one? Did you see that their were 2 leaders mentioned by name, neither of whom is the DNC chairman?

I am nit picking how they handle their shit

Then send them your suggestions on what changes you would like to see in the DNC charter regarding how the primary elections are held. The DNC is obligated to stick to the charter, and process of how to hold primary elections can only be changed in between elections, like right now.

and finding it lacking.

So you disagreed with the DNC's decision after 2016 to change the 30 year old rule regarding super delegates, so that super delegates can no longer vote in the first round of the nomination?

This article was obviously referring to the House Democratic Caucus, not the DNC, because it mentioned Jeffries. So you were incorrect when you thought this was referring to DNC leaders. And it is weird that you have never heard about the House and Senate Democratic Caucus organizations. Because both of them are way more powerful and important than "The DNC". If you are going to comment about politics on the internet, it is your responsibility to understand how things actually work and the differences between different organizations. Another good lesson I would like to point out here is that social media can distort reality just as much as the mass media can. You were a victim of this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What is wrong with you? You are literally being obtuse and refusing to see what I'm saying. Are you trying to convince me of something while simultaneously not even understanding what I'm saying?

If you think you understand what I'm saying, explain it to me.

Only of the private organization known as the Democratic Party.

Are you saying the people in the article are not members of the private organization known as the Democratic party?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The people in the article are not members of the private organization controlled by the DNC and the DNC has no authority over them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What did you just do? Why did you reword it that way? You are coming across as duplicitous now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What do you mean, "reword it"? I didn't reword anything.

The article mentions "Members of the Steering and Policy Committee — with House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) in the room "

The "Dems" referred to in the araticle is clearly talking about the House Democratic Caucus (HDC) rather than the DNC. The HDC is a completely separate (and way more powerful) organization than the DNC.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Are you illiterate? I asked you a Yes or No question, and instead of answering it, you reworded it. Scroll up and try again.