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Stolen from @vmstan

More analysis from @wiredfire:

It’s nothing to do with [difficulties in using multiple platforms]. It’s to do with the massive backlash they got on Fedi for their CEO being all Trumpy and somewhat horrible right wing. So they’ve run away because they were made to feel unwelcome on account of us not letting their BS fly.

Original screenshot is of the bio of https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy and wasn’t a post (that confused me for a sec).

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I suggest Mullvad as an alternative to Protons VPN services.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, plenty of good VPN alternatives. Not so much for email though if you want encryption.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

tuta.com seems a good option, I switched to them a few months ago and so far so good

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tuta is in Germany, part of the 14 Eyes, which share intelligence with the US. If you are an American engaged in activism under the current administration, do not use Tuta. They are absolutely obligated to comply with sealed warrants for your data, and nobody there is going to put their livelihood or freedom on the line for you, nor should they be expected to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good thing it's encrypted then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So is Proton. And Proton is in a country where it's illegal to give data to the US government.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They don't encrypt as many parts of emails as Tuta does, tho.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A point that's largely moot, considering all of nothing is still nothing, which is what the US gets from Proton, while Germany will hand over whatever little information Tuta has when asked nicely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I fully expect that all countries will become like this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I was considering this service. There are a few things that make me hesitant, like searchability of emails and possibly calendar features and integration. But this one is definitely at the top of my list.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Searchability is good, better than Proton even. I'm sure it requires keeping all the emails stored locally but thats ok with me

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah I've seen people run into issues not finding some emails, but from what I researched, this seems like a really good service. Slowly moving my stuff back into my hands, so email is coming lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would not rely on provider-dependent encryption anyway. If you want actual encryption - use PGP.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seconded.

For anyone considering switching though, make sure:

  1. You don't need port forwarding (e.g. for faster P2P online gaming, or various other P2P services) since I don't believe they have it, or if they do it certainly doesn't work well
  2. You're okay with a smaller selection of servers, since Mullvad has less

I will say though, I found less sites throttled/blocked me on Mullvad in some cases, since Mullvad's IPs are less widely shared than Proton's, so that's a plus, but a few sites will have hard blocks on some VPN providers like Mullvad that they've made manual exclusions to for larger VPNs like Proton.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From what I understand, Mullvad removed port forwarding to clamp down on piracy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

iirc, they removed port forwarding because people were hosting CSAM and Mullvad lost some location/internet providers business.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Wow. That is so much worse.