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This is not analogous to this situation at all. They will keep doing what they're doing. They aren't invited to do it by us. The only way to make them stop is to get them to join us. You can't just kick them out like you could someone staying at your house.
The equivalent situation would be something like being locked in a house with someone. Your best bet is to convince them to be better. It isn't to turn them into an enemy because you're stuck with them.
Because you aren't trying to understand how they can come to their position empethetically. They have empathy. It's just being abused. You're trying to turn them into some monstrous "other" that you don't have to consider where they came from.
These are actions, not reasons. Murder is generally bad, right? However, if I murder someone to save hundreds of other people, maybe not anymore, right? They're told, for example, that immigrants are killing, raping, or doing whatever to Americans. They're told this is a rampant massive issue. They want to protect the innocent who are being harmed. They come to a bad action through an empathetic thought process. You not seeing how that can be done is you not having empathy for them.
I'm not discussing republican elected officials. They're the ones misleading republican voters to do evil. They are almost universally bad. The average republican is not. They're mostly misguided.
Again, I'm not talking about the leaders. I'm the person who would fight against Hitler, but wouldn't turn down the help of someone else who wanted to fight against him but voted for him in the past.
Most people want what's best for them and their family. They're told socialism or whatever is evil, and they believe it. When the policies are polled without telling them what it is, people agree with them. Most Republicans want to legalize Marijuana, for example. The elected officials don't. Don't think what republican officials say or do represents their voters, because it often doesn't when polled. They support workers. They generally support people being allowed to do what they want freely. However, they're told there's a great evil they need to defend against, and that they're doing the right thing by fighting against the left.
These are not most republican voters.
Again, these aren't most republican voters. Most republican voters are sitting at home and trying to survive, like everyone else.
They're told they're fighting the good fight. They're told there's evil that's trying to harm innocent people. All of this is done so the elites can keep fucking them and us. Telling them they have to continue to be our enemy because they once we're is stupid. It's a waste of everyone's time.
Making enemies has never helped anyone. If you don't want to ask them to join, fine. Just don't say anything. No one needs you to pop in and tell them their pieces of shit when they're thinking about voting against Republicans.