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President Volodymyr Zelensky left the White House early without signing a mineral deal with the United States following a heated exchange with President Donald Trump on Feb. 28.

Zelensky departed in his motorcade around 1:45 p.m. local time, without holding a joint news conference scheduled for later in the day, after the two leaders got into a heated argument while speaking with journalists in the Oval Office.

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CNN reported that following the exchange, Zelensky and Trump left to separate rooms, with the Ukrainian delegation wanting to continue talks with the Trump administration.

Trump later ordered his officials to tell the Ukrainian officials to leave the White House, despite protest from the Ukrainian delegation.

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[–] [email protected] 143 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

The U.S. are no longer the leaders of the free world. It's up to Europe now. The U.S. is a fucking shithole.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

It’s always been that way

[–] [email protected] 98 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

The U.S. are no longer the leaders of the free world.

Frankly, most of the time that was said it was said by Americans and the rest of us just smiled and nodded politely.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

As an American, I've been more overtly disagreeing with the idiots saying this stuff.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 15 hours ago

and the rest of us just smiled and nodded politely while nervously eyeing the gigantic stick America was waving around.

America was only ever the “leader” of the free world because no other country wanted to bother with going up against their military. They have bases all over the world. Politely nodding was considered a small price to pay for not being targeted by them.

But this current administration has proved that politely nodding won’t keep a target off of your back. So now, countries have started rethinking their attitudes towards those American military bases.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

EU governments were completely happy letting it be the case as well. Don't act like they were doing much to try and reduce their reliance on US aid.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, so? They were willing to play along as long as America was reasonably well behaved about it. That was the unspoken bargain of America's Cold War and post-Cold War international influence - they got to have plenty of soft power, and in exchange they got to play out their World Police fantasy.

Now that's going to be going away.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

Yeah most Americans don't realize we've been slowly losing our Hegemony in world power since the world was well rebuilt after World War 2. But even I thought we had another few decades before we just shit the bed.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Fair enough. It's up to the E.U. now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

Let's see if they're going to get off their ass, or if they'll just try appeasement again.