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Trump, Vance Clash With Zelensky During White House Meeting (news.antiwar.com)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it's a reality, in all but name, and it's also a reality that this war no longer has a point without trump, forcing someone else to go die for it is beyond pointless or evil; it's worse than kidnapping.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

it’s a reality, in all but name

(confusion)

this war no longer has a point without trump

I agree this war has no point. Russia tried to invade Ukraine and couldn't. Their "liberate Kyyv in one week" goal is like, 3 years behind schedule? And just got some life-saving oxygen due to Trump. Trump is immaterial. In case you don't follow international politics, no one is seriously counting on him for any war scenario.

it’s worse than kidnapping.

It could be worse than "kidnapping", but it's still not "kidnapping".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

it's a reality, in all but name means that people are already being taken against their will (ie kidnapping); but it's not being called kidnapping because the west ukranians are in control (for now).

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

Glad we agree it's not kidnapping then.