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Signal is the No. 1 downloaded app in the Netherlands. But why? (techcrunch.com)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I would have rather seen Element but hey, it's a step in the right direction.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Why? Matrix sucks as an instant messenger app, it's better as a Slack/Discord alternative.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It only sucks because you keep using Element. Its the worst client out there, if you account for "doneness"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

And what would be the best? Element is certainly the most popular.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Only because I'm not aware of other decentralised Signal alternatives. That's on me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

SimpleX is pretty rad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Indeed, but funded by VC which makes me uneasy about its future.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Huh, I missed that. From the announcement:

Also, funding the work to transition the protocols to non-profit governance model would not have been possible without the donations we received from the users.

Our pledge to our users is that SimpleX protocols are and will remain open, and in public domain, so anybody can build the future implementations of the clients and the servers. We are building SimpleX platform based on the same principles as email and web, but much more private and secure.

If they stay true to that, they're probably planning on building for-profit apps on top, while keeping the foundation free.

That sounds reasonable to me. Hopefully that happens.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't Element based of Matrix? From what I've read, Matrix is a bit mid (not exactly mid, but I can't think of any other word).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It works as it's supposed to, though the handling of keys (strictly necessary for self-determined end-to-end encrypted chats) can be hard and annoying for people who have no experience. But once you get the hang of device confirmation you can use it seamlessly across multiple devices.

[–] Sunshine 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Fluffy Chat is great too!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Nice! Never heard of that one, I'll look that up!

[–] Sunshine 1 points 16 hours ago

It's got matrix multi-account support and looks really nice.