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Buy European

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Overview:

The community to discuss buying European goods and services.

Benefits of buying local:

Local investment, job creation, innovation, increased competition, more redundancy.

Matrix Chat

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submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

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There might be some changes that could improve it further:

  • ~~Remove Brave~~
  • ~~Maybe add Signal; It's easier than Element, but it's also centralized~~
  • Stop suggesting Linux Mint specifically
  • Recommend Hosted Nextcloud
  • ~~Add GrapheneOS~~
  • Maybe add Delta chat
  • ~~Maybe remove Bluesky~~
  • ~~Remove Stremio and add Jellfyin (even though it's selfhosted and not a direct equivalent)~~
  • ~~Add ente because Immich is selfhosted~~
  • ~~Add aurora~~
  • ~~Add SearxNG~~
  • Add SimpleX
  • Add lichess
  • Add pCloud

Any other suggestions?

Temporary improved version:

From To Compromise
X, Threads Mastodon Bluesky
Instagram Pixelfed
YouTube PeerTube ReVanced (just blocks adds)
Reddit Lemmy
Netlix, Disney+ πŸ”¨ Jellyfin
Google Meet, Zoom Jitsi Meet
Google Docs Etherpad
Google Search πŸ”¨ SearxNG Kagi, Ecosia
Google Drive Nextcloud pCloud, filen, Proton Drive
Google Photos, iCloud Immich Ente
Google Chrome Librewolf, Firefox Ungoogled-chromium
All messaging apps Element (matrix) Signal
Google Home, Amazon Alexa Home Assistant
Play Store F-droid, Aurora
Google Android, iOS LineageOS, GrapheneOS
Windows, MacOS Linux Mint

πŸ”¨ = Self-Hosted only (requires running a server)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

signal runs on amazon servers. Anything that can't self host and isn't federate isn't worth it. Matrix (and element) fill this requirement. But IMHO, the best is XMPP where you can self-host or use federated servers located in other countries.

Why would you prefer XMPP? Last time I checked most features (like E2EE) weren't part of the base protocol.

Delta chat is basically email.

It supports mail, but also has an encrypted normal chat backend AFAIK

Why? Because it's torrents?

Yes, it's not really a good alternative since it's illegal. I'm not judging but it's not a good option for most people.

Aurora is just a front-end for google playstore. You should add f-droid

Droid-ify is F-droid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Why would you prefer XMPP? Last time I checked most features (like E2EE) weren’t part of the base protocol.

Just because it is not part of the base protocol, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist or supports it.

I like it for personal reasons. Just because is lightweight and there are way much more servers than matrix, imho makes it better. However, In the end it boils down to personal preferences and your attack surface.

It supports mail, but also has an encrypted normal chat backend AFAIK

WHen i tried it years ago, it was just a normal email with a special subject that the delta chat client would read, parse and display.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

WHen i tried it years ago

you should try it again, Delta Chat is totally on a different level than a few years ago, there has been tons of improvements, I started using it around 2018, now I am even contributing to it