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Following up on this thread: https://lemm.ee/post/58774156?scrollToComments=true , which was used to announce people that we were moving (similar to https://lemmy.world/post/24312613)

General feedback was negative.

Lessons learned: find a way to notify only subscribers

An admin told me that if this kind of action os coordinated with the community instance admins, they could consider sending a mass direct message, which could then also target only subscribers.

This would require direct database access.

For context, the previous experience was https://lemmy.world/post/24312613

Feedback there was

thanks, I’m sure I only shitposted one time here about football’s cultural atmosphere or game theory/sportsmanship in general.

Thank you for the heads up folks

As a lemm.ee user myself, I approve of this.

I saw the automod tag everybody, and that’s a really nice solution you’ve come up with

I’m also not subscribing to the new one b/c I’m starting to get annoyed with the notion that communities need to be consolidated. That’s not a discussion for this post, though.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just want to clarify that it's not really a bot. It's a script you run once to gather user activity and then ping once. It isn't really built into the FootballAutoMod and was designed to be used once during the football migration.

If it's ever to be used again, it should be in coordination with the local admins of that instance, that way you can also get the subscriber list. I've also promised @[email protected] that it won't ping lemmy.world users if someone want to use it again during a migration (assuming they get approval from the local admins).

If any admins want to throw in their thoughts, that would be lovely.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you for clarifying!

What do you think about the idea in the OP about switching to a DM, potentially in coordination with the instance admins to only reach subscribers?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From a programming perspective it doesn't make a difference, it's technically simpler sending a DM. The bigger question is how lemmy at large views this method. The [email protected] users might have been an outlier, it seems like a divisive topic based on how some people reacted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I see.

The football community was probably much smaller, so people didn't mind getting notified

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think by nature if you're not interested in football you won't ever comment on post there, so the amount of false positives in terms of subscribers were likely very low compared to a TV community that sees more c/all engagement.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you use that script again to notify me amongst thousands or even hundreds of other users, I will be asking my admins to ban you permanently from my instance, and asking the admins of the instance on which you host whichever community you're promoting in your spam message to permaban you from that instance too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

As I said in the other reply to you, please read what I'm writing. You instance would be filtered out in the theoretical scenario as I've spoken to one of the admins of lemmy.world

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

FYI, the person you're answering to is an admin of https://programming.dev/

Really not sure why you're so angry about it.

You wanted to understand why we thought it would be a good idea, I gave you the context of the previous feedback we received, overall positive.

You wanted us to apologize, I did.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don't want to mix admin duties with personal use. The same rules applies to me as any other user of programming.dev, and the instance has nothing to do with this situation.

We haven't yet made the admin guidelines public (within this or next week, still revising), but any reports that involves me would be left to the rest of the admin team to handle without me commenting on it. If I were to break the Code of Conduct, I absolutely should face the same consequences as any other, including potential bans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Well, that's fair. Also, I read the comment again, they meant lemm.ee in this case.