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Inspired by the recent c/AskLemmy question about Myanmar.


As a PRC-born ethnic Han-Chinese person who currently is a US Citizen and reside in the US, I'm curious on what people think of my former country.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The first thing I think of is "propaganda" but you might not expect why. I grew up in the western world, hearing constantly that China was basically the epitome of evil. Their government is evil, their people are evil, the very land they walk on is evil, everything they've ever done has been evil. In history we only learned about their crises and the times they caused problems for the western world.

Unlike my peers, however, this made me curious. Why are you telling me so constantly that they must be evil? Can't there be good people there doing their best just like we are? And then things started getting weird in the western world. Then they got worrying. Then they started really taking their masks off and I realized "ohhhh you were projecting the whole time weren't you?"

I still don't know much about China. I don't know what your culture is really like, how the people actually treat each other. I don't know basically anything about you. I'd love to learn though, if you're willing to teach.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their government is evil

I mean... its not entirely false. . I mean, the CCP through the one child policy did try to terminate me, since I was the second pregnancy that my mother had (she already gave birth to my older brother), so they did try to find my mother to force an abortion against her will. Then after I was born, I guess the since I already exist, its too difficult to justify killing someone who was already born, so they just let me live. My parents had to pay like somewhete like ¥10,000 to ¥20,000 (in Renminbi currency) in order for me to get legal documents, which was a lot of money at the time. So yea fuck the CCP.

But to put in in perspective, it isn't nearly as bad as North Korea, where they totally ban people from leaving.

their people are evil

Yea this is total BS. There's nothing in the DNA of ethnic Chinese that make us "evil".

Unlike my peers, however, this made me curious. Why are you telling me so constantly that they must be evil?

Like, don't think this is just a western thing.

Nationalism is a thing in every country.

In China, they teach people why Japan is evil and all Japanese people are monsters... and I'm like... "all of them?" 🤔

Then it got weirder when the US was also portrayed as evil... I mean, don't get me wrong, the US has done a lot of evil things. But its was also the US that aided China aginst the japanese invasion of China. Although controvertial, it was the US who nuked japan and that immediately stopped the war and save a lot of Chinese people.

So yea I get it, every country want to portray others as evil. Its not unique to the west.

But remember one thing:

Governments =/= The people whom they rule over

You can dislike a government without hating the people too

I still don’t know much about China. I don’t know what your culture is really like

I mean, tbh, I immigrated to the US as a kid, so I don't know much either.

I don’t know basically anything about you. I’d love to learn though, if you’re willing to teach.

I mean... do you have any specific questions to ask?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Having two child rule is evil? Why? Rules makes a society, its your mom that try to break the rules? You know why they try to have 1 child policy right?

Sure they can be evil, but 1 child rule isnt evil. Imagine if 1st world countries suddenly started getting 5-10 childs everyone, everyone taking sueside cus no jobs and heavy competition on school.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The nasty bit was telling a mother she has to have an abortion against her will.

China now has the opposite problem of a declining population, which causes problems because of the working age population is small compared to the older population, you end up running out of money so you either have to tax more heavily or abandon older folks to their fate without helping them.

The declining population problem is very common in wealthier countries.

And lower population means fewer jobs. The number of jobs that need doing in a country doesn't depend on the area of the land, it depends on the population size. The problems come when governments don't build infrastructure. If you don't build schools and hospitals and suchlike, three are fewer jobs in construction and less money going into the local economy, and schools and hospitals get crowded and do a worse job.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Yep agree, i was in China in 2021, with my job, honestly i did see tons of jobs they dont need, like big security on each school, Cooks everywhere at school, and others

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

It would be nasty if she was pregnant and suddenly the rule goes in action. If she got pregnant after the rule was set? Idk

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The government shouldn't have control over this. This is no different from nazi eugenics.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Hmm, there are way to many people in China, how would you regulate it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I think you're quite a few decades out of date with that opinion. The Chinese government is very worried about population decline now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Ye sure, but that was not my point