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Elon Musk says it’s trans people’s fault that cis people are burning Tesla cars
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Now that the Trump administration is treating Tesla vandalism as domestic terrorism, Musk has connected Trans people to domestic terrorism.
Whether or not he meant to (I don’t know if his Ketamine and amphetamine addled brain even comprehends cause and effect), this is a stated goal of Project 2025: criminalizing Trans people.
An argument I read recently is that the Nazi plan for gay and trans people wasn’t “genocide” per se. It was a mental health issue or deficiency to be cured. More a project of conversion therapy. In effect, it was wanton slaughter and being a “pink triangle” prisoner was about as bad as you could get, but Himmler had ideas like having gay men fuck prostitutes in the camps (women promised a better life than Ravensbrück - they’d end up on the trains to Auschwitz after). Like you could supposedly be cured, so the goal would be to fix you before giving up and eliminating you, at least in theory.
They’ll have trans people declared mentally ill for being trans and institutionalized. The institutionalization won’t have the goal of killing us, but the people put in charge of caring for us will exploit their power. We will be sexually abused, chemically castrated, and physically abused. This will happen under the appearance of mental health treatment, so it will be invisible.
good thing the mental health system is already so functional transparent and safe, so it's a long way to go beteen here and there.
Yeah! There’s so much state oversight that insures that patients are both protected from physical assault and that reports of such assault aren’t consider symptomatic of mental illness!
It’s not as if they’re black boxes which can take your phone away, transport you against your will across county lines and lie to you because you said you felt so sad that you were considering not being alive anymore.
Himmler probably wanted to "cure" gay people, then draft them into the military. And also it's wrong to assume that there was a rational basis for Nazi "science." Much of it was pseudoscience that'd make RFK Jr's idiocy look rigorous in comparison.
The point was that it was flexible.
Rohm was okay because he was useful. After he was out of the picture, all homosexuals were bad. (But at the same time - the way many gay men survived the camps was basically becoming a sex slave to someone with more power. It’s that classic “it’s only gay to suck someone else’s dick, not to get your dick sucked.”)
Near the end of the war, they just needed bodies for the front. The “werewolfs” were basically going to be sent to die against Russian partisans.
Fascism is inherently self-contradictory. That’s the point. It’s about who has to follow the rules, not what the rules are.
They’re trying to make not liking Trump a mental illness in one state so far, they’re absolutely going to make being Trans a mental illness.
Although with Musk connecting being Trans with attacking Teslas, and the Trump administration treating attacking Teslas as domestic terrorism, I could absolutely foresee Trans people eventually being sent to CECOT and never leaving.
The sponsor (a Republican) has been arrested for soliciting a minor, and MN's governor would have vetoed it anyway. That was just bigotry-signalling to toady to Trump. I'm sure they'll try again, but that instance had no chance of success even before its author got done for allegedly being a nonce.
They don’t have to pass laws for both cops and psychs in southern states to view being trans or leftist as an institutionalizable mental illness.
There are tons of shrinks that would happily come up with something else to call “Trump derangement syndrome” and in these southern states, there is almost no state oversight for mental health care.
(Fuck, even when it comes to children - I was talking to a journalist about my work trying to get a group home shut down - said he had been writing about it for years but the state doesn’t give a shit.)
in MN, a blue state, where it was literally 5 people.
There is no precedent for this, i'm not sure how you would even enforce it, and there's no way it would even begin to pass the congress, let alone the veto powers.
My understanding was that queerness was a Jewish plot for control. They treated it like a disease that could infect the entire population if left unchecked.
Sort of like the "woke mind virus".
i was saw a post on reddit saying every conspiracy always circle back to antisemitism, aka blaming all jews.
Their understanding was flexible, and changed especially at the end when they started losing the war. Josef Kohout, author of the men with the pink triangle got picked up after a love affair with the son of a fairly high up member of the party. That man got a light treatment, while Kohout was sent to the camps - it was possible to understand homosexual desire as “a failing of youth.” Near the end of the war, one could be liberated by agreeing to be castrated and sent out to the front.
It’s like alt right movements today - the ideology is flexible. It’s a worship of masculine power above all.
Think about the weird prevalence of Nazi femboys (thinking about Nick Fuentes boyfriend….) Being homosexual is only wrong if it’s done in a way that’s “queer.” Getting your dick sucked by some f€ggot on Grindr isn’t “gay” because the power structure has not been violated. Kohout is pretty pointed in his account when he talks about how the only difference between the kapos and officers that desired him and himself was that he wanted to love his partner. That’s gay shit - that’s the problem. Not wanting to marry a woman and pump out white babies, while fooling around with lower social status men on the side.
I'm all for tesla dealership vandalism, but doesn't it pretty much fit the bill as terrorism? It's violence against noncombatants to achieve political aims. Whether we agree with it or not doesn't really change that definition.
no?
If i burnt down your house, with malicious intent, would that count as terrorism?
It's arson, plain and simple.
You could argue it was "done for political reasons" but if i did the same thing, because i disagree with your political views, and think you're a bad person, it's still not terrorism.
If i were to let's say, go bomb a planned parenthood, that might count as domestic terrorism. If it were a government building, that would most certainly be domestic terrorism.
Terrorism is the act of using violence or intimidation for political gain/control.
Hasn't the Trump administration repeatedly said that Musk has no official political role? Then how could an attack on Musk's property be violence or intimidation for political gain?
it isn't and can't be, tesla isn't a government agency. Even if musk was this is still equating tesla to be a government agency, or at least under the purview of it, in terms of security for some reason.
That's exactly what their motivation is.
a lot of people kill people for political reasons, doesn't make that terrorism. There's a specific branch of intentionally inciting terror with the use of violence FOR political means, that's actually defined as terrorism.
Burning teslas at dealerships probably doesn't count. Extorting people and threatening to kill them, might count.
The violence wasn't simply for political reasons, as you suggest. It is to accomplish political goals by causing fear and terror in people associated with that brand. That seems like terrorism to me.
I'm sorry, perhaps I'm misunderstanding; are you defining inanimate objects as "non-combatants?"
Did you have issues with that definition when a couple of hicks shot up a bunch of electrical equipment?
No one has to be directly or physically injured for the act to be an attack.
False equivalence. Destroying cars is not the same as destroying infrastructure.
The intent of shooting up a power station was to deprive a very large number of people of electricity, which will directly harm some and could potentially kill a few. That's not quite the same as vandalizing a large retailer's inventory. Who's going to be injured or died if a few cars get written off?
The definition doesn't set a limit on the number of people injured by an individual act.
Setting a bunch of lithium batters on fire is absolutely dangerous to people nearby. The fact that none have been killed yet is simply a sample size problem.
Arson is inherently a violent and lethal act. And honestly I'm very doubtful about your assertion that power loss is somehow more lethal than a fire. Almost 4k people died from fires in 2022. I can't find the corresponding stat for power loss, so feel free to do some research.