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Time to break free of traditional political ideological labeling and divisions. Time to abandon old, divisive sociopolitical labels like "liberal" and "conservative".

A new political party based on a vastly, commonly held virtures lends itself to embrace over 66% of Americans, and it clearly embraces progressive principled thinking. In the most ideal American sense of unity, a political party should not be able to be defined or placed as "to the left" or "to the right" of where the Democratic or Republican parties currently are. Just let it exist organically based on present-day principled thinking. The American Progressive Majority.


Originally Posted By u/Atlanticbboy At 2025-03-23 04:38:18 AM | Source


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[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I mean realistically what is you owning a gun gonna do against a drone strike or whatever other tech the military has? The only way a revolution happens in the modern day is if the military lets it. I can definitely see the value in guns for protection against paramilitary groups trying to go after people but beyond that guns aren't gonna stop the US government from doing fascist stuff if the military is on their side.

Edit: Also at a certain point if you're actively fighting and resisting against the government getting access to guns even if they are illegal isn't gonna be the biggest problem you have.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago

I mean realistically what is you owning a gun gonna do against a drone strike or whatever other tech the military has?

All of that tech is reliant on logistics. People in trucks, moving stuff from where it is, to where it will be used.

With guns, that logistics network is vulnerable.

The Russians spent 10 years fighting Afghan resistance, and lost. The US spent 20 years fighting Afghan resistance, and lost. The American civilian populace is much better equipped than Afghani fighters ever were. Any forceful defeat of the American populace will require civil disarmament.

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

guerilla warfare is still helped by having weapons and is probably still somewhat effective against a military that doesn't want indiscriminate slaughter of civilians.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I mean I would make an argument that it's a lot easier to convince soldiers to shoot down civilians if they're armed versus unarmed. So while it might help with guerilla resistance it most likely wouldnt really help towards the ultimate goal of overthrowing a fascist regime.

[–] CherryBullets 1 points 1 week ago

Americans would not be fighting alone in such a case.

[–] LonstedBrowryBased@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Untrained unequipped combatants in the Middle East have killed over 20,000 US soldiers in the last 25 years so not sure your point stands

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

And yet at least in Afghanistan the US propped up government wasn't overthrown until the US military left. Like I said in another comment you can do damage but you're not gonna successfully overthrow the government unless you get the military to defect or let you do it. Combine this with the other points I made that even if guns are illegal you can definitely still acquire them and that gun control is the only way we can combat mass shootings and gun violence and I don't see the positives from being able to own guns outweighing the negatives.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Could I get the right to bear nukes?

[–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

If you become powerful enough to have them, and get them, you have given yourself the right to have them.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

How did Afghanistan turn out?